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    My Quick Ratio Steering Arms arrived today from Stud Intl ( $115 pair).

    A sticker says " Made In China "
    Should I be concerned ????

    We plan to work on the bad steering on my 78 Avanti II next month. The Steering column is Chrysler and the Steering Box looks like a 67 Dodge Truck unit. The WORM gear is shot. Might as well put the new steering arms on in addition.

    In anyone has any "lessons learned" on this repair, let me know.

    Thanks, Jerry.

  • #2
    Be careful not to flake off the lead based Chinese paint.


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    • #3
      Fix the box first, using QR arms with a shot box will only make the steering that much more vague!

      nate

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      • #4
        Say Jerry, How about putting up some pics. so we can see what the original looks like? Never worked on an Avanti 2.

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        • #5
          Do you think it will try to steer a hard left?

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          • #6
            Only if your going to drive it!
            quote:Originally posted by geojerry

            My Quick Ratio Steering Arms arrived today from Stud Intl ( $115 pair).

            A sticker says " Made In China "
            Should I be concerned ????

            We plan to work on the bad steering on my 78 Avanti II next month. The Steering column is Chrysler and the Steering Box looks like a 67 Dodge Truck unit. The WORM gear is shot. Might as well put the new steering arms on in addition.

            In anyone has any "lessons learned" on this repair, let me know.

            Thanks, Jerry.

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            • #7
              "Ching chow ing ding pinga poo."

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              • #8
                I believe the originals were forged, and would expect replacements should be forge too.
                Can you identify whether a part is a forging or a casting?
                Castings typically have a very fine "parting line"
                Forgings usually have a wider parting line where excess material was cut off with a grinder, although it is possible to make a casting that includes features to make it resemble a forging.
                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...inepics054.jpg
                http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/100_1771.jpg
                http://www.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/...91034914_L.jpg

                First I'd have them magnalfluxed, after inquiring how they would be magnetized for the process.
                maybe check them at home with some Spot Check dye penetrant.
                I'd grab 'em in a big vice or bolt them in place and smack the end with a hammer

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                • #9
                  I've seen the repops, I installed a set for someone a few years ago.
                  They were made in china and they were forged. I don't like the fact that they came from China but I really don't think you'll have any problems with them.

                  quote:Originally posted by Dan Timberlake

                  I believe the originals were forged, and would expect replacements should be forge too.
                  Can you identify whether a part is a forging or a casting?
                  Castings typically have a very fine "parting line"
                  Forgings usually have a wider parting line where excess material was cut off with a grinder, although it is possible to make a casting that includes features to make it resemble a forging.
                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...inepics054.jpg
                  http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/100_1771.jpg
                  http://www.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/...91034914_L.jpg

                  First I'd have them magnalfluxed, after inquiring how they would be magnetized for the process.
                  maybe check them at home with some Spot Check dye penetrant.
                  I'd grab 'em in a big vice or bolt them in place and smack the end with a hammer

                  http://www.speedwaymotors.com/images...ebaker-ART.gif

                  Russ Shop Foreman "Rusty Nut Garage"
                  53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
                  57 SH (project)
                  60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

                  Russ Shop Foreman \"Rusty Nut Garage\"
                  53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
                  57 SH (project)
                  60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by geojerry
                    A sticker says " Made In China "
                    Thats really sad. I would pay more for them if they were made here.

                    Tom

                    '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
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                    • #11
                      quote:Originally posted by sbca96

                      quote:Originally posted by geojerry
                      A sticker says " Made In China "
                      Thats really sad. I would pay more for them if they were made here.
                      Tom
                      Let Ed know how you feel.

                      63 Avanti R1 2788
                      1914 Stutz Bearcat
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                      63 Avanti R1 2788
                      1914 Stutz Bearcat
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                      • #12
                        What is REALLY sad? There are a lot of options in the States now. It
                        is not really neccessary to go to China anymore, some shops with this
                        capability would love to be making ANYTHING with the current market.

                        Outsourcing has really hurt our industry, sure the part cost is cheaper
                        but the quality suffers, and from some of my buddys tell me, getting a
                        problem fixed is like pulling teeth. In prototyping, they have to send
                        parts back and forth very often, many engineers get tired and do the
                        mods themselves in their Companies deserted shops, make a copy and
                        then send the copy to China for them to reproduce.

                        Tom
                        '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                        Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                        http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                        I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                        • #13
                          A big thing that concerns me with sourcing parts from overseas...and particularly China, is the quality control. Yes...many high quality parts are Chinese made, and made elsewhere as well. It's the safety factor. Near where I live is (well..was...it's closed now), is a large aluminum factory. It's had several corporate owners over the years. A friend used to work there...he said when it was American owned, all aluminum products were made with a 25-30% safety margin over what the contractor called for. He also said that when the plant was French owned, there was no safety factor...the strength was built to contract specs and no more. That makes a big difference in overall strength and durability.

                          It concerns me if the Chinese made parts have any safety factor built in. The American importer is open to a lot of liability should the parts fail...how would you sue the Chinese if they made substandard parts?




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                          • #14
                            I was considering this as the next mod to my Hawk. Not any more. So sad.[V]

                            Andy
                            62 GT

                            Andy
                            62 GT

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                            • #15
                              quote:Originally posted by Andy R.

                              I was considering this as the next mod to my Hawk. Not any more. So sad.[V]
                              Andy
                              62 GT
                              As I said before....

                              Let Ed know how you feel.

                              This is a rare instance where you have access to the boss.
                              Let him know you're a customer, Stude owner and SDC member.
                              Can't hurt.


                              In many of the car magazines there is an ad/essay by the owner of MacNeil Automotive products about why he brought back his manufacturing from Europe and why he uses American tools, materials and people to make his products. It's worth reading.
                              It boils down to: he wants to have customers. He feels the best way to make sure you have U.S. customers (i.e. people who have money) is to support American industry.
                              I'm no crazy zenophobe...(and yes, I'm sure my Nike's were made abroad along with lots of stuff that simply isn't made here anymore, so I'm not perfect)
                              but it makes sense to me.


                              63 Avanti R1 2788
                              1914 Stutz Bearcat
                              (George Barris replica)

                              Washington State
                              63 Avanti R1 2788
                              1914 Stutz Bearcat
                              (George Barris replica)

                              Washington State

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