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  • coyote
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    I'll probably get blasted for this, but here goes...
    The company I work for sources aftermarket engine parts from all over the world. We have warehouses in India and China that I am responsible for, hence, I travel to Asia about 6-8 times a year. About 10 years back, we came to the realization that we either had to source product offshore, or we might as well close up shop. We could not sell US made product against foreign competition, and our customers were not willing to pay a premium for US made product. I will be the first to tell you that you need to be VERY careful when selecting vendors. I do not buy anything without personally performing factory audits, and maintaining direct links with management. I refuse to deal with trading companies or middle men, because you loose that link with the true manufacturer. We do not buy from the cheapest source. We buy from the highest quality source that allows us to sell competitively and make a reasonable return on our investment. We audit raw material records, and quality inspections on every lot we purchase. It has enabled our company to not just remain in business, but we have expanded our product offering, turned a profit, and keep administrative, management, and sales people employed here.
    You can buy a lot of junk overseas, but if you are devoted to a quality product, you can buy that as well, but it does take vigilance. It is the only realistic way an aftermarket parts supplier, or a supplier for obsolete car parts can offer many of the items that they do carry.

    Steve
    Minden, Nevada

    1950 2R5 truck
    1960 Hawk R2 4 speed project

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  • JBOYLE
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    quote:Originally posted by Andy R.

    I was considering this as the next mod to my Hawk. Not any more. So sad.[V]
    Andy
    62 GT
    As I said before....

    Let Ed know how you feel.

    This is a rare instance where you have access to the boss.
    Let him know you're a customer, Stude owner and SDC member.
    Can't hurt.


    In many of the car magazines there is an ad/essay by the owner of MacNeil Automotive products about why he brought back his manufacturing from Europe and why he uses American tools, materials and people to make his products. It's worth reading.
    It boils down to: he wants to have customers. He feels the best way to make sure you have U.S. customers (i.e. people who have money) is to support American industry.
    I'm no crazy zenophobe...(and yes, I'm sure my Nike's were made abroad along with lots of stuff that simply isn't made here anymore, so I'm not perfect)
    but it makes sense to me.


    63 Avanti R1 2788
    1914 Stutz Bearcat
    (George Barris replica)

    Washington State

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  • Andy R.
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    I was considering this as the next mod to my Hawk. Not any more. So sad.[V]

    Andy
    62 GT

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  • Gunslinger
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    A big thing that concerns me with sourcing parts from overseas...and particularly China, is the quality control. Yes...many high quality parts are Chinese made, and made elsewhere as well. It's the safety factor. Near where I live is (well..was...it's closed now), is a large aluminum factory. It's had several corporate owners over the years. A friend used to work there...he said when it was American owned, all aluminum products were made with a 25-30% safety margin over what the contractor called for. He also said that when the plant was French owned, there was no safety factor...the strength was built to contract specs and no more. That makes a big difference in overall strength and durability.

    It concerns me if the Chinese made parts have any safety factor built in. The American importer is open to a lot of liability should the parts fail...how would you sue the Chinese if they made substandard parts?




    Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

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  • sbca96
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    What is REALLY sad? There are a lot of options in the States now. It
    is not really neccessary to go to China anymore, some shops with this
    capability would love to be making ANYTHING with the current market.

    Outsourcing has really hurt our industry, sure the part cost is cheaper
    but the quality suffers, and from some of my buddys tell me, getting a
    problem fixed is like pulling teeth. In prototyping, they have to send
    parts back and forth very often, many engineers get tired and do the
    mods themselves in their Companies deserted shops, make a copy and
    then send the copy to China for them to reproduce.

    Tom

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  • JBOYLE
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    quote:Originally posted by sbca96

    quote:Originally posted by geojerry
    A sticker says " Made In China "
    Thats really sad. I would pay more for them if they were made here.
    Tom
    Let Ed know how you feel.

    63 Avanti R1 2788
    1914 Stutz Bearcat
    (George Barris replica)

    Washington State

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  • sbca96
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    quote:Originally posted by geojerry
    A sticker says " Made In China "
    Thats really sad. I would pay more for them if they were made here.

    Tom

    '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

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  • rusty nut garage
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    I've seen the repops, I installed a set for someone a few years ago.
    They were made in china and they were forged. I don't like the fact that they came from China but I really don't think you'll have any problems with them.

    quote:Originally posted by Dan Timberlake

    I believe the originals were forged, and would expect replacements should be forge too.
    Can you identify whether a part is a forging or a casting?
    Castings typically have a very fine "parting line"
    Forgings usually have a wider parting line where excess material was cut off with a grinder, although it is possible to make a casting that includes features to make it resemble a forging.
    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...inepics054.jpg
    http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/100_1771.jpg
    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/...91034914_L.jpg

    First I'd have them magnalfluxed, after inquiring how they would be magnetized for the process.
    maybe check them at home with some Spot Check dye penetrant.
    I'd grab 'em in a big vice or bolt them in place and smack the end with a hammer

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/images...ebaker-ART.gif

    Russ Shop Foreman "Rusty Nut Garage"
    53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
    57 SH (project)
    60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

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  • Dan Timberlake
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    I believe the originals were forged, and would expect replacements should be forge too.
    Can you identify whether a part is a forging or a casting?
    Castings typically have a very fine "parting line"
    Forgings usually have a wider parting line where excess material was cut off with a grinder, although it is possible to make a casting that includes features to make it resemble a forging.
    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...inepics054.jpg
    http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/100_1771.jpg
    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/...91034914_L.jpg

    First I'd have them magnalfluxed, after inquiring how they would be magnetized for the process.
    maybe check them at home with some Spot Check dye penetrant.
    I'd grab 'em in a big vice or bolt them in place and smack the end with a hammer

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/images...ebaker-ART.gif

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  • buddymander
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    "Ching chow ing ding pinga poo."

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  • rusty nut garage
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    Only if your going to drive it!
    quote:Originally posted by geojerry

    My Quick Ratio Steering Arms arrived today from Stud Intl ( $115 pair).

    A sticker says " Made In China "
    Should I be concerned ????

    We plan to work on the bad steering on my 78 Avanti II next month. The Steering column is Chrysler and the Steering Box looks like a 67 Dodge Truck unit. The WORM gear is shot. Might as well put the new steering arms on in addition.

    In anyone has any "lessons learned" on this repair, let me know.

    Thanks, Jerry.

    Russ Shop Foreman "Rusty Nut Garage"
    53 2R6 289 5SpdOD (driver)
    57 SH (project)
    60 Lark VIII 2dr sd (driver)

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  • ivorydan
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    Do you think it will try to steer a hard left?

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  • Alan
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    Say Jerry, How about putting up some pics. so we can see what the original looks like? Never worked on an Avanti 2.

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  • N8N
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    Fix the box first, using QR arms with a shot box will only make the steering that much more vague!

    nate

    --
    55 Commander Starlight
    http://members.cox.net/njnagel

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  • Milaca
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    Be careful not to flake off the lead based Chinese paint.


    Brent's rootbeer racer.
    MN iron ore...it does your body good.

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