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what is exact dimesions and the stock backspace for a 60 lark 2 dr v8 wheel
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Originally posted by mw2013 View Postwell then..the offset part of the equation confuses me, is it moot, if i know the backspace?
https://www.discounttire.com/learn/o...%20the%20wheel.
IAC, measure to find out what you can use before you buy anything.
Bob
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i checked all lark types from 59-66 have a body width of 71.3-71.5 and if all rear end width are the same i.e. any rear end swap will mount on the springs with the right hardware, then the wheel well cavity are approximately the same, in the rear,but idk how different the front in suspension is, i feel a 15 x7 while max width(for me) is doable with the right back space, of 3" which is only5/8" more inboard than stock
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Originally posted by mw2013 View Post
i am talking about the wheels, the rubber will be used up, if no one wants them for aforementioned reasons, then they may end up being something useful when scrapped,... what i can sell them for 25 a piece? and 2 years effort, maybe i can give them to another stude owner who wants to go "correct"?
Given their rarity and assuming they are in good shape, you could get double that or more. Freight is often the kicker with steel wheels.
DW
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Originally posted by mw2013 View Post
i am talking about the wheels, the rubber will be used up, if no one wants them for aforementioned reasons, then they may end up being something useful when scrapped,... what i can sell them for 25 a piece? and 2 years effort, maybe i can give them to another stude owner who wants to go "correct"?Skip Lackie
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You took a screwdriver to "roll" the fenders to clear these tires/wheels...? I hope you know what you're doing in the long run and stay safe.
Altering the geometries like wheel offset are rarely a good idea on ~60+ year old steering components and rear axle components alike. You've seen our threads elsewhere on the topic of radials versus bias-ply construction. Radials allow for much greater lateral stresses on rims, so while you've installed what appear to be modern J-code steel safety rims, they are no longer the weak link when cornering hard. Go easy.
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostUPDATE: OK back to the Real, IMPORTANT Original Question: What IS the Wheel Backspace?
The first three are very easy, the 4th. would take a measure, because "About" doesn't work.
4 1/2 Inches Wide inside the bead.
15 Inches Dia.
5 on 4 1/2 Inches, Standard Ford/Chrysler Pattern.
Backspace: Measured from the outside of the Inner Rim Surface to the Drum Mounting Surface of an Original '59 Lark Wheel = 2 3/8 Inches.
Keep in mind that these Wheels are for the Stock Drum Brakes, and will not have enough clearance for Disc Brake Conversions.
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3/4 Inch Hex Lug Nuts, that do not work on other make Wheels that use 13/16" WRENCH Size, Also 1/2 -20 I.D. as apposed to the Stude. 3/4" Wrench Size and different Seat Angles, an easy fix.
3 Humps Molded into the wheel "Center" that hold the Studebaker only sized, small Hubcaps when the Optional Wheel Covers are not used.
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Originally posted by NCDave51 View PostYou took a screwdriver to "roll" the fenders to clear these tires/wheels...? I hope you know what you're doing in the long run and stay safe.
Altering the geometries like wheel offset are rarely a good idea on ~60+ year old steering components and rear axle components alike. You've seen our threads elsewhere on the topic of radials versus bias-ply construction. Radials allow for much greater lateral stresses on rims, so while you've installed what appear to be modern J-code steel safety rims, they are no longer the weak link when cornering hard. Go easy.
Sure, it's beautiful, and it's big new feature is an oval wheel, for greater leg clearance.If you enjoy it, send a dollar to the Studebaker National Museum, ...
i don't see them babying the lark in this commercial on the dirt road, between stories of tapered axles breaking and now this comment, i am thinking these studes are brittle and fragile, i took it on the freeway, the only thing not so good was the manual drum brake, but i do the like the "full screen "view all the way around, no blind spots, bench seat, column shift auto love it!Last edited by mw2013; 11-22-2020, 08:50 PM.
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I guess it matters what Studebaker Parts are being called "Fragile".
Engines: Certainly not.
Borg Warner Transmissions: Certainly not.
Dana Model 44 Rear Ends: Certainly not.
Solid King Pin Front Suspension: Certainly not.
Steering System: as tough as they get.
Axles: prone to Age Hardening and Crystallizing at the beginning of the Taper and breaking when abused.
Many times when someone is just gently cruising down the Road or more commonly accelerating reasonably from a Stop and an Axle breaks, it is caused by a Younger or more aggressive Driver having Fun with it the Night before!
Please don't ask how I know that be be true.
The good News is; Moser Flanged Axle Conversion Kits are available.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostI guess it matters what Studebaker Parts are being called "Fragile".
Engines: Certainly not.
Borg Warner Transmissions: Certainly not.
Dana Model 44 Rear Ends: Certainly not.
Solid King Pin Front Suspension: Certainly not.
Steering System: as tough as they get.
Axles: prone to Age Hardening and Crystallizing at the beginning of the Taper and breaking when abused.
Many times when someone is just gently cruising down the Road or more commonly accelerating reasonably from a Stop and an Axle breaks, it is caused by a Younger or more aggressive Driver having Fun with it the Night before!
Please don't ask how I know that be be true.
The good News is; Moser Flanged Axle Conversion Kits are available.
thanks now i could beat on it, in the front and easy does it in the back
but my steering is mighty loose is that normal?, lots of play on the wheel ( manual)
i went from a 3.73 flanged to a 3.07 tapered twin traction, fingers crossed
the brakes don't inspire confidence, so i have to slow for that reason alone and no shoulder seat belts is another, wham in the steering wheel and 4-5 root canals no thank you
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