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    Hello folks. I've picked up a couple 59 silver hawks. I will be building a gasser out of them. I was wondering if there are any services that could key my locks for my hawk?I have no keys to the locks. I can remove all the locks and send if I could get them keyed. Did the studebaker silver hawks have 1 key that fit the entire car ?

  • #2
    Ignition key would fit the doors. Glove box key would fit the trunk.
    "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

    Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
    '33 Rockne 10,
    '51 Commander Starlight,
    '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée",
    '56 Sky Hawk

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rockne10 View Post
      Ignition key would fit the doors. Glove box key would fit the trunk.
      thanks for that info rockne ? Now have to find place that can make Keys and I'll be in business.

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      • #4
        You have no keys at all? Studebaker vendors can supply the appropriate blanks. An old school automotive locksmith can cut keys to match your pins, or repin your lock to match a key. There are a limited number of key/pin compatibles and some Stude aficionados may be able to contribute a key that would work.
        "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

        Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
        Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
        '33 Rockne 10,
        '51 Commander Starlight,
        '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée",
        '56 Sky Hawk

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        • #5
          Try a locksmith.

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          • #6
            I had the same issue with my 55' President after pulling her out of a storage unit, I had no keys. I had a lock smith come out, after about 5 hours he had the ign key cut, and it was the same for the door locks. The keys are real small, he was an old school lock smith did a great job. Not sure where you live but if your in the Bakersfield area I used Bakersfield Lock Smith.




            Goodluck!
            Dylan
            I own a 1955 Studebaker President "Speedster", sat garaged for 20 years
            pulled it out in January of 2013, she is now a weekend driver around town.
            "Making many miles, and many smiles a long the way".

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            • #7
              Alright guys I'll find an old locksmith to make the keys. Can anyone supply a vendor that sells key blanks for my car ? I'm new to the studebaker world so please bear with me as I'll have a million questions through out this build.

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              • #8
                The simple way would be to get the built order from the museum and that has the key number on it.
                I have a hundred or so keys with the number tags on them and may have that key or cut one from my key tables by a licensed lock smith
                here in town.
                I also have a few N.O.S. lock sets with matching ignition and door locks.
                Studebaker used both Hurd and Yale locks.
                The difference is the size of the keys, Hurd locks were small keys with either Hurd or nothing on them and Yale locks used larger keys with hexagon heads
                and the "Studebaker" name on them.
                Yale keys have numbers such as S1234 . Hurd keys had number such as HH345 or HW 445 etc.
                This is an other example of Studebaker using different vendors for similar parts as not getting caught as they did in 1952 by relying on Ross steering gear boxes.
                Ross went on strike and Studebaker could not finish any cars.
                Studebaker got help from GM Saginaw and adopted a gear that was similar to other makes and made brackets to fit them into the 1952 Models.
                From then on Saginaw boxes were used on Champions and Ross on Commanders after the strike was over.
                The irony was that the Saginaw boxes were far superior to the Ross steering gear boxes and owners switched Saginaw boxes from Champions into Commanders for much easier steering.
                Robert Kapteyn
                Last edited by rkapteyn; 03-08-2013, 04:39 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Geerbangr View Post
                  Alright guys I'll find an old locksmith to make the keys. Can anyone supply a vendor that sells key blanks for my car? I'm new to the studebaker world so please bear with me as I'll have a million questions through out this build.
                  The locksmith may have blanks that will fit your locks, but if you want real Studebaker blanks, Studebaker International will be able to supply them. In any case, they aren't hard to find. BP
                  We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                  Ayn Rand:
                  "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."

                  G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                  • #10
                    If you have a local locksmith do it, have them do the trunk lock, not the glove box because the glove box has one less tumbler in it. When I need this done I take my ignition & trunk lock.
                    59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
                    60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
                    61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
                    62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
                    62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
                    62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
                    63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
                    63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
                    64 Zip Van
                    66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
                    66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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                    • #11
                      welcome, and keep us posted on your build...with lotsa photos...can't wait to see what you are doing. junior
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                      1954 C5 Hamilton car.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Geerbangr View Post
                        Alright guys I'll find an old locksmith to make the keys. Can anyone supply a vendor that sells key blanks for my car ? I'm new to the studebaker world so please bear with me as I'll have a million questions through out this build.
                        Welcome!

                        I am also new to the Studebaker world, and have asked millions of questions. Everyone here is a lot of help.
                        I own a 1955 Studebaker President "Speedster", sat garaged for 20 years
                        pulled it out in January of 2013, she is now a weekend driver around town.
                        "Making many miles, and many smiles a long the way".

                        sigpic

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rkapteyn View Post
                          The simple way would be to get the built order from the museum and that has the key number on it.
                          I have a hundred or so keys with the number tags on them and may have that key or cut one from my key tables by a licensed lock smith
                          here in town.
                          I also have a few N.O.S. lock sets with matching ignition and door locks.
                          Studebaker used both Hurd and Yale locks.
                          The difference is the size of the keys, Hurd locks were small keys with either Hurd or nothing on them and Yale locks used larger keys with hexagon heads
                          and the "Studebaker" name on them.
                          Yale keys have numbers such as S1234 . Hurd keys had number such as HH345 or HW 445 etc.
                          This is an other example of Studebaker using different vendors for similar parts as not getting caught as they did in 1952 by relying on Ross steering gear boxes.
                          Ross went on strike and Studebaker could not finish any cars.
                          Studebaker got help from GM Saginaw and adopted a gear that was similar to other makes and made brackets to fit them into the 1952 Models.
                          From then on Saginaw boxes were used on Champions and Ross on Commanders after the strike was over.
                          The irony was that the Saginaw boxes were far superior to the Ross steering gear boxes and owners switched Saginaw boxes from Champions into Commanders for much easier steering.
                          Robert Kapteyn



                          Ok my ignorance must shine. What is the built order number ? Is that the VIN number ? So once I get the built order number distinguished how do I got about contacting the museum ? I would be interested in doing business with you on this key issue if you have what I need.

                          I went to Studebaker International and they have replacement locks but they don't have the flappers on them. That is one of the many things I find cool about the car.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Geerbangr View Post
                            Hello folks. I've picked up a couple 59 silver hawks. I will be building a gasser out of them. I was wondering if there are any services that could key my locks for my hawk?I have no keys to the locks. I can remove all the locks and send if I could get them keyed. Did the studebaker silver hawks have 1 key that fit the entire car ?
                            Building a gasser you say. I suppose a beam front axle and skinny tires up front and 'tubbed' at the rear. Seems to me that super secure door and trunk locks would not be a high priority as long as you have an ignition key that works on such a highly modified machine. What I did with a 50 Champion Rat Rod was remove the locks and pry off the little channel that holds the pins and springs and dump them out. Now it looks like the locks work and I use a key [any key will do] to lock the car. No one knows that the car can be opened with a screwdriver but so what? Door and trunk locks are only for honest people and kids...if a bottom-feeder wants in your car he will pry the wind-wing or break glass.

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                            • #15
                              I'd like to have locks that are functional.

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