Studes in Roadside Americana photos

[8E45E]

For sure Holland, even if it might be Utrecht or whatever, A'dam most likely since all tourists ends up there...
& I see Renault Dauphine, VW 1500/1600, 2cv's & a AMI8 so what's a "POC"?

Surprisingly, not one DAF (unless there's one hidden way down the street).

Craig

[JRoberts]

I know this is not in America, but it is so cool I wanted to post it. What you see is a 1937 Ford and a 1938 Studebaker (I think the years are correct) competing in the Monte Carlo Rally back in the late 1930's. I never knew American cars competed in this event that early. I also wonder what was done to those early electrical systems to power all those extra lights. Check out here.... http://stevemckelvie.wordpress.com/2...njoyable-read/

[kurtruk]

Which way is it going happens in racing, too!

[jclary]

I know this is not in America, but it is so cool I wanted to post it. What you see is a 1937 Ford and a 1938 Studebaker (I think the years are correct) competing in the Monte Carlo Rally back in the late 1930's. I never knew American cars competed in this event that early. I also wonder what was done to those early electrical systems to power all those extra lights. Check out here.... http://stevemckelvie.wordpress.com/2...njoyable-read/

Interesting, to me, is that the Studebaker is sporting a zip up Grille cover that will allow additional air flow restriction during cold weather. We often discuss cooling problems with our aging Studebakers. But, our cars are now old, engines rust internally, corrode, and crud up. But, when new, these cars carried 170 degree thermostats. I don't know what thermostat rating was in the Fords, but, unless I am misinformed, the early Ford V8's were notorious for running hot. As you can see, the Ford is very open, probably needing all the air it can get for cooling. Also, notice that these are sedans, not lightweight coupes.

Great picture, thanks for posting it.

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[JRoberts]

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[rockne10]

In Elizabeth, PA. Currently a Rite-Aid pharmacy.

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[JRoberts]

Interesting, to me, is that the Studebaker is sporting a zip up Grille cover that will allow additional air flow restriction during cold weather. We often discuss cooling problems with our aging Studebakers. But, our cars are now old, engines rust internally, corrode, and crud up. But, when new, these cars carried 170 degree thermostats. I don't know what thermostat rating was in the Fords, but, unless I am misinformed, the early Ford V8's were notorious for running hot. As you can see, the Ford is very open, probably needing all the air it can get for cooling. Also, notice that these are sedans, not lightweight coupes.

Great picture, thanks for posting it.

I started a reply right after John posted this reply, but wanted to check on a couple of things so did not reply. These are excellent observations. As far as the cars in the pictures being sedans, this was not uncommon even into the 1960's. Mercedes, Peugeot, Ford and others based their international rally exploits on sedans. As far as the grill covers, remember that the "Monte" was run in the winter (January-February I believe). Much of the time the event had more than one starting point, these being all over Europe. Winter in the Alps and other places in Europe can be testy for any car and driver and at speed naturally even worse in the winter months. What my dad used to call a "trucker's thermostat" might well be needed by many contestants, especially in the early days of the "Monte." I cannot imagine the skill needed to navigate through such conditions in cars like in my original post.

[dictator27]

Interesting, to me, is that the Studebaker is sporting a zip up Grille cover that will allow additional air flow restriction during cold weather. We often discuss cooling problems with our aging Studebakers. But, our cars are now old, engines rust internally, corrode, and crud up. But, when new, these cars carried 170 degree thermostats. I don't know what thermostat rating was in the Fords, but, unless I am misinformed, the early Ford V8's were notorious for running hot. As you can see, the Ford is very open, probably needing all the air it can get for cooling. Also, notice that these are sedans, not lightweight coupes.

Great picture, thanks for posting it.

Ford flathead V8's were unique amongst all V type flathead engines, All other V configuration engines had their exhaust manifolds on the inside of the V. Ford put them on the outside. Putting the manifolds on the outside meant the exhaust gases had to make several sharp turns as they exited the cylinders as well as going right through the water jacket. The heat from the gases was transferred directly to the coolant raising the temperature and compounded by ineffective water pumps, particularly on early engines in spite of having two water pumps on them.

Terry

[JRoberts]

Anybody know the story behind this picture? I found it on the H.A.M.B. it is labeled Newport, Oregon.

[Commander Eddie]

There was a thread about this a while ago but cannot remember the title.
As I remember, Studebaker had some folks try to drive one or more of their cars from the valley to the coast, or up the coast (not sure which) without using any roads. I'm probably remembering this all wrong but that is what come to mind. You might try doing a search for Oregon, Coast, Newport and see what you come up with.