Studes in Roadside Americana photos

[JRoberts]

[JRoberts]

From the Old Motor. If you haven't checked in at Old Motor you really ought to.

[JRoberts]

[JRoberts]

I found this picture on the H.A.M.B. forum with no explanation, so I do not know when or where this photos was taken. Is the Avanti a left over from '64? Is the '66 sedan a new car or are all the vehicles used cars that are on display indoors. Could the Avanti be a post Studebaker model? What's your guess?

[BobPalma]

Woo-hoo; a Land Cruiser....any others? BP

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[JRoberts]

[JRoberts]

[dictator27]

Yep, and AEC Brill trolley bus. Very common in bigger cities right after the war. Edmonton last run a Brill in 1978, and still has #202 in their historical fleet.

Craig

Re 6395

Diesel powered Cancar Brills (or CCF Canadian Car and Foundry) used British AEC under floor diesels which could be easily identified by a characteristic "lope" when idling. The trolleys were just Cancar Brills. Vancouver still has a large fleet of trolleys. I believe it is the only Canadian city still using them.

Note the "apple" on the front of the bus. Vancouver was already an environmentally conscious city and it hinted at the use of clean energy. The BCE in the apple was the British Columbia Electric Railway referring to its origins as a street car system. The last streetcars ceased operations in 1950, probably not too long before this picture was taken. The BCE (now Coast Mountain Bus Company) also ran a fleet of Hall-Scott powered Fageol Twin Coaches which ran on propane, keeping the environmental image intact. Having said that, the AEC powered Cancar Brills still wore the apple, but were known for black smoke!

Terry



Terry

[Bill Pressler]

RE.: 6409, with '66's and an Avanti in the showroom:

I believe that's a '66 real showroom photo. The non-Avanti models appear to have the smallish window stickers Stude used then. My personal opinion only (and there had been a little discussion on this photo a week or so ago here too) is that that is an Avanti II. What makes me think that is I think the front wheel openings look smallish compared to the Studebaker Avanti, and the wheels behind the wheelcovers appear to not be painted white. They were painted white on Studebakers but not on early Avanti II's. Plus, the Avanti's window sticker looks larger than the other Studebakers. Just an opinion.

[Bill Pressler]

RE.: Photo 6408--

My personal opinion, again, only, is that the dark-colored Daytona Hardtop on top of the one truck is 64V-20202. I have seen this pic in a book, or maybe South Bend Tribune photo, in relationship to the plant shutdown, before. Hard to tell of course, but I also feel that's an oval "Avanti Powered" badge, with white insert, on the front fender, which I think is larger than the parallelogram '8' emblem used on other Daytonas that year.

[8E45E]

Re 6395

Diesel powered Cancar Brills (or CCF Canadian Car and Foundry) used British AEC under floor diesels which could be easily identified by a characteristic "lope" when idling. The trolleys were just Cancar Brills. Vancouver still has a large fleet of trolleys. I believe it is the only Canadian city still using them.

Note the "apple" on the front of the bus. Vancouver was already an environmentally conscious city and it hinted at the use of clean energy. The BCE in the apple was the British Columbia Electric Railway referring to its origins as a street car system. The last streetcars ceased operations in 1950, probably not too long before this picture was taken. The BCE (now Coast Mountain Bus Company) also ran a fleet of Hall-Scott powered Fageol Twin Coaches which ran on propane, keeping the environmental image intact. Having said that, the AEC powered Cancar Brills still wore the apple, but were known for black smoke!

Correct. It should have read ACF Brill; not 'AEC' which describes a diesel-engine version. I posted a 1949 gasoline-powered Brill here http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...CCF-Brill-C-36 which originally used a Hall-Scott engine.

Of course, being in Canada, it also could have been a 'CCF' Brill.

Craig

[6hk71400]

[QUOTE=Bill Pressler;1006160]RE.: Photo 6408--

My personal opinion, again, only, is that the dark-colored Daytona Hardtop on top of the one truck is 64V-20202.

That serial number is the car that is in the Studebaker National Museum. It was originally going to a dealer in Pennsylvania but the dealer cancelled the order and it ended up in the museum. It could, I suppose, have been loaded for shipment then taken down off the truck. Pure conjecture on my part. Somewhere I do have a copy of the original window sticker that years ago someone had on another newsgroup website.

Bob Miles

[Bill Pressler]

[QUOTE=6hk71400;1006169]

RE.: Photo 6408--

My personal opinion, again, only, is that the dark-colored Daytona Hardtop on top of the one truck is 64V-20202.

That serial number is the car that is in the Studebaker National Museum. It was originally going to a dealer in Pennsylvania but the dealer cancelled the order and it ended up in the museum. It could, I suppose, have been loaded for shipment then taken down off the truck. Pure conjecture on my part. Somewhere I do have a copy of the original window sticker that years ago someone had on another newsgroup website.

Bob Miles

My understanding has been that the decision to save 64V-20202 hadn't been made as of the day of assembly and that the 'ringer' car taken from stock with options deleted and added to fill the customer order for 64V-20202, took place after the shutdown.

That pic looks to me like snow on the ground too, which would help put it in that timeframe of December production.

[JRoberts]

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