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    1963 Champs - T-Cab - 8Es - forum registry

    If you have a 1963 Champ, half or three-quarter ton (or know of one) - lets see them. Put up all the information you have and include some photos if they are available. Please leave out any personal information - someone can pm you if they want to "talk." Click on the serial number to go to that particular vehicle's post.

    8E5 - OHV Six 1/2 ton
    E5-136082 (7/26/16)
    E5-136192 (9/16/14)
    E5-136309 (2/21/15)
    E5-136370 (2/12/17)
    E5-136528 (10/9/14)
    E5-136548 (12/28/16)
    E5-136622 (9/19/14)
    E5-136654 (2/4/17)
    E5-136726 (10/12/14)
    E5-136840 (6/21/15)
    E5-136904 (2/8/17)
    E5-137161 (12/28/16)
    E5-137224 (9/13/14)
    E5-137228 (9/16/14)
    E5-137333 + photos (9/12/14)
    E5-137627 (3/28/17)
    E5-137663 (10/19/14)
    E5-137848 (10/25/16)
    E5-137857 (10/12/14)
    E5-137987 (3/21/15)
    E5-138067 (12/16/16)
    E5-138189 (9/13/14)
    E5-138254 (2/18/15) on '64 Champ page
    E5-138288 (5/4/15)
    E5-138534 + photo (10/19/14)

    8E7 - V8 1/2 ton
    E7-18960 (10/5/14)
    E7-19115 (1/24/17)
    E7-19225 (11/19/16)
    E7-19304 (5/1/16)
    E7-19327 (9/3/16)
    E7-19404 (2/20/17)
    E7-19421 (8/22/15)
    E7-19486 (9/19/14)
    E7-19797 (10/12/15)
    E7-20021 (12/28/16)
    E7-20025 (2/19/15) on '64 Champ page
    E7-20030 (9/18/14)
    E7-20031 (9/23/14)
    E7-20078 (10/11/15)
    E7-20456 (2/1/17)
    E7-20467 (2/21/15)
    E7-20526 (2/26/16)
    E7-20811 (9/29/16)
    E7-20879 (2/9/16)
    E7-20945 (10/19/14)
    E7-21040 (2/26/16)
    E7-21146 (2/26/16)
    E7-21158 (2/27/16)
    E7-21162 (5/27/16)

    8E10 - OHV Six 3/4 ton

    8E12 - V8 3/4 ton
    E12-5986 (9/14/14)
    E12-6414 (9/13/14)
    E12-6447 (11/15/14)

    Remember, this does not have to only be a truck you own - could be one you know of or one that is for sale you saw somewhere - just want to see how many we can come up with. Can include any trucks that are "field flowers" or ones that were parted out years ago - just curious as to what is out there.

    If you need me to host your photos - just email them to champs@zoho.com - and put VIN and name so I know who you are.

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    I have an 8E5 112 and an 8E7. I do not see any links to the page for that above. Or are we supposed to put it here?
    8E5-112 E5-137333
    8E7-122 E7-22236
    Got them both from Lional Stone. The E5 in 1977 and the E7 about the time of his accident in 2009.
    Was going to put up pics. but Photobucket is giving me a bunch of crap.
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    Yep Alan, just put a post on this thread with all your information for people to see (if they are 1963s). With the serial number, I will link your post to the top post.

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    Yep - in due time I will start a thread for the '64 8Es - will probably happen after starting a thread on 5E Champs...keep your eyes peeled

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    I have a '63 8E5. Bought new from Pierotti Motors in Fremont, CA, I know nothing about the first owner. The second owner bought it in the early '80's, overhauled the engine, painted it and drove it for a few years, and ended up driving it (with no overdrive) cross country to Asheville. In about 1990, I started seeing it driving about town with a For Sale sign, but he was always going in the wrong direction, and by the time I turned around, I could never find him. In 1991, I finally caught up with him. He was using it in his masonry business, knew it was ruining the truck, but needed to sell it to buy a modern, throw away truck for work. We negotiated a really great price and it was mine!

    In 2000, I was ready to repaint it and reupholster it, as it was getting rather ratty from his use, and mine. I stripped it to metal, found some surprisingly deep bondo in the cab and bed where it had been in a collision, did my best to pull it into shape (not good, but better) painted it in my 1940 wooden garage, slid an NOS 1961 seat cover on, made a headliner, and completed the truck in 2001. The previous owner could not match the original green, and ended up with 1978 Cadillac Basil Green Firemist metallic that is sort of close. I like it better, so used the same color on my respray. I entered it in the SE Zone meet and took 1st in my class! I was surprised and pleased!

    Over the years, it's just been normal upkeep, but in the mid 2000's I started building a 185 OHV 6 to put into the tiring 170 in it. I finally finished the thing in 2012, rebuilt the trans, and have been enjoying it since. It's not fast by any means, but a much better engine than the 170. I've been up to 80 MPH in it, it had a few more MPH in it, but that was enough for me. In a year or two, it'll be time to refresh the paint again, as some rust has started to pop out, and of course these is till that old collision damage that needs to be fixed properly.
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    Thanks Ron - do you have the VIN and any other details on how it is equipped?

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    8E5-137224 - 112 - T4 trim

    Reported to have radio and heater.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 62champ View Post
    Thanks Ron - do you have the VIN and any other details on how it is equipped?
    8E5 -112. E5 138189 started life with no overdrive and no heat, now has both, but still no radio. T6 trim.

    Currently has the original 4.27 open diff, I have a 4.09 TT to install. Besides the 185 OHV, I've reworked the overdrive kick down to be on the clutch, so I can have a 5 on the tree. 2nd OD to straight third is a pretty good split between 2nd and 3rd. Kick down occurs if I just tap the clutch. I like it better than the factory kickdown on the throttle, but that's just me. I also have four balanced brake drums, if anyone else has a vibration they can't cure, check your brake drums! I also have Turner front disks, and a dual master cylinder.
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    I have 8E126414. Its 3/4 ton with the new process 5 speed od and 4.10 twin traction rear end.


    since this picture was taken I have painted the mirror bracket and stems white and in the process of trying to find the correct white mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I have an 8E5 112 and an 8E7.
    8E5-112 E5-137333
    8E7-122 E7-22236
    Thanks Alan - got the E5 recorded, but it appears your E7 is actually a '64 model (first VIN for E7s in 1964 is 21251). But do not fear, I have a friend who is chomping at the bit for a '64 registry, so it will be up some time in the near future .

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    I have 8E12-122 SN 5986 trim code T6. daily driver not restored. 289 T98 from factory changed to NP540 5sp OD transmission w/4:10 rear twin traction. Great work horse deserving of a new paint job.

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    My champ started life as a DIY two trucks erector set. I always wanted a Nash truck, but finding them too few and once found in deplorable condition my next choice, being fond of studebakers, was owning one (truck). The particular year did not bother, I just wanted a cool stude truck. My buddy studebob, in Visalia, ca. Located the two donors for me in1995. The work took many years and, of course, had to be budget based. So hence, by about 2005, it traveled to my home in LA county. It wears these designations; E 5 - 136192, 8 E 5 - 112 and 8 E - T 6.
    So, in other words it is no longer a six cylinder, but sports a 259 full-flow oil filtered, bored 30 over and with parts from Ted Harbit engine upgrade offerings. I liked the WCFB carb which works well on it, ( I stole it from my sons 63 Daytona roll-top wagon after he purchased the edelbrock carb). The "Chump" , as I lovingly call it, also is now a 122 inch bed. I wanted a truck that would work as a truck, not just a pretty little show piece. That's it.

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    My 63 is E5137228 T-6 . When I bought it the Champ was powered by a 57 Commander 259 With 3:31 rear end. Originally a 3 speed it now has a 64 Avanti 289 & is automatic. Dave T-Bow did the rebuild last year with R3 upgrades. The 12" boom box has also been removed.
    It's the best work truck I've ever had. The tonneau cover snaps on for car shows. Right now the tin worm is feasting on the rockers & fenders.
    Those fiberglass fenders in the new SI catalog sure look inviting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbruner View Post
    My 63 is E5137228. It left the factory as a 259 & 3 speed. It now has a 64 Avanti 289 & is automatic. Dave T-Bow did the rebuild last year with R3 upgrades.
    It's the best work truck I've ever had. The toneau cover snaps on for car shows. Right now the tin worm is feasting on the rockers & fenders.
    Those fiberglass fenders in the new SI catalog sure look inviting!
    I was thinking about getting a tonneau cover for my 64 8E7 long bed. Did you have yours custom made?
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    My cover came with the Champ. Two oak bows slip into metal tracks to help repel water. I rarely use it because it's not practical for every day use.

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    '63 Champ Registry

    My '63 Champ is E720030. It has R & H, twin traction with 4:10 rear-end, & three speed. Engine is a 259 from a '62 Lark. Engine is currently being resealed, steering has been replaced, cab & bed are passable. Seats are from a Plymouth Voyager. Will add a photo when I figure out how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ truck 4D3 View Post
    I have 8E126414. Its 3/4 ton with the new process 5 speed od and 4.10 twin traction rear end.


    since this picture was taken I have painted the mirror bracket and stems white and in the process of trying to find the correct white mirrors.
    HEY! This thing looks awfully familiar! I still can recall the first time I laid eyes on it in Plains Georgia. She looks nice again. Sported an aluminum camper top with a walk-in style door when I owned it. She was light blue in her first life. Still tickled that she's still up and going. May she keep on perkin' as long as there's still gasoline to be had.
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    Here are a few pics. of E5-137333

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    I have E5136622 and E719486

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    1963 Champ flat bed

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    Mine is E7-20031 and is an 8E7-122 and has 8E-T6 on the firewall.
    It says 141 hp @ 3800 RPM
    It's got a 259 V8 with 3spOD and has deluxe trim and a split rear window
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    8E7-18960 - 112 WB - 4 speed transmission

    Discussed on Studebaker Truck Talk, Feb, 2007

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885...first+63+Champ
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    8E5-136528 - T6 trim - straight three speed

    Discussed on Studebaker Truck Talk, Oct. 2007

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885.../63+champ+help



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    From a post by Frank Drumheller on Studebaker Truck Talk, June, 2010
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885...+still+exist--

    Particulars-
    Invoice date- 4/10/63
    Delivered by Bolin

    Model- 8E5-22-T4 w/ P2 box, $1595.00
    Serial number- E5-137857
    Engine number- 1E-29872
    Color- Apache Red P6355
    Gears- 4.27
    Tires- (5) 6.70X15 4 ply tires- std.
    Climitizer- AC3081, $53.10
    Directional Signals- AC3244, $9.90
    Anti-freeze, $2.75

    Sales Promotion, $7.50
    T.V. advertising, $20.00
    Distirbution and Delivery, $72.68

    Total, $1760.93

    Paid for by Princeton Bank & Trust Co.

    Sold to W. Pyontek 6-4-63

    Paid off- PB&T 5-29-63

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    8E5-136726 - 112 WB - 3 spd.

    Mentioned in post on Studebaker Truck Talk, Nov. 2010.

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885...s+I%27ve+owned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roscomacaw View Post
    HEY! This thing looks awfully familiar! I still can recall the first time I laid eyes on it in Plains Georgia. She looks nice again. Sported an aluminum camper top with a walk-in style door when I owned it. She was light blue in her first life. Still tickled that she's still up and going. May she keep on perkin' as long as there's still gasoline to be had.
    Danged shame I did not swap with you for that ragged '62 GT Hawk I had back in the late 70's in bee-yoo-tee-ful Smyrna (south of the Big Chicken for those of you who don't know where Smyrna is)... I'd have won on that. I hated the brown then, but love it now.
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    8E7-20945 - 122 WB - T6 cab

    Four speed tranny - climatizer







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    8E5-137663 - 112 WB

    Yard truck from Vern on Studebaker Truck Talk: http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885...bers+on+champs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bish View Post
    I had E5138534: 4 speed, long box, T4 trim. Bought it in Bethel, VT. And sold it to Jim Ouillet in St. Albans.won't let me upload photo from iPad
    Send it from a REAL Computer or add it to your Photobucket Page, both work fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post
    Send it from a REAL Computer or add it to your Photobucket Page, both work fine.
    I downloaded my wagon pic just fine, so????
    "Somewhere West of Newport Center"
    1956 2E12 O/D
    1959 4E2 4spd, TT
    1963 8E28 GSA order
    1963 8E5 SOLD!
    1963 Lark Daytona Wagonaire 289,O/D, TT

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    Repost with crooked pic!

    REPOST- E5- 138534 Apache Red, 4 speed, T 4 trim. Tried to post pics but came out 90 degrees off?
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    1963 8E5 SOLD!
    1963 Lark Daytona Wagonaire 289,O/D, TT

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    That's ok Bob,these Champs can climb the steepest of hills
    Quote Originally Posted by Bish View Post
    REPOST- E5- 138534 Apache Red, 4 speed, T 4 trim. Tried to post pics but came out 90 degrees off?
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    8E12-6447 - 122 wb - T6 cab

    5sp/OD, Climatizer, radio

    For sale on Ebay, November 2014









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    From Rob Reese in Easton, PA:

    1963 Champ 8E5-136309.

    I think the cowl tag went on my Dad's truck. It was an 8E- T 6 six, stick, 122 wb w/a P 2 box. It was well equipped with a radio and flashers along w/the stainless. All was recycled to other trucks but the cab and outer fenders. Laguna Blue.
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    63 champ 8E7 112 E720467. Got it a little over a year and a half ago v8 auto nice truck.

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    8E5-137987 - 112 WB - T6 cab

    Six with OD and climitizer. '62 Champ door panels and some other non-original items - paint included...

    On E-bay in March of 2015







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    8E5-138288 - 122 WB - T6 cab

    Originally a six with climitizer - now has two more cylinders... For sale on Ebay in early May, 2015.







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    8E5-136840 - 112 WB - T4 cab

    V8 conversion with many other modifications. For sale on Ebay, June 2015.







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    8E7-19421 - 122 WB - T6 cab - for sale on "bring a trailer", August 2015

    Info from SDC Forum:
    "I stopped by today on my way home from work and spoke with the owner of the body shop and got the back-story, looked it over, took some pictures, and heard it run. I did not drive it. I'll post the pictures later today when I have more time to upload them.

    Model 8E7-122, serial number E7-19421, GVW 5200, body tag 8E-T6. V8 with automatic transmission. Odometer is showing 97777.4 miles. It appears to have the original radio. The dash pad was cracked in several places. The seat and headliner were showing their years, but were not ripped or torn. The door panels looked age-worn but good.

    The owner of the body shop is a friend of the truck's owner. The guy operates a well-known 4x4 truck aftermarket supply shop in the area. He found this Champ a few years ago and bought it. He also likes snowmobiles. He took the truck to the body shop, and his friend did the period-look advertising on the sides and hood (it's all fake, for nostalgia only). The body-shop owner also installed the light on the roof, the spotlight on the left side, and a siren on the right side.

    The truck has been repainted in all red, and the more-recent paint is badly faded. There are hints that the roof was previously white. Despite this, the body is actually in decent shape. The cab corners and door sills have no visible rust or blisters. The front left fender has a small perforation at the bottom rear by the driver's door. The right front fender has been repaired with some bondo between the wheel well and the bumper, and there are a few blisters under the paint in the same area.

    I pulled back the floor liner on the passenger side. The floor looked solid, but it was damp. Could be a problem lurking farther back. I was not able to pull up the floor mat on the driver's side. The underside seemed to be decent with some surface rust generally everywhere. I didn't see any rot or holes. Not to say they could be hiding, especially with the vinyl floor mat.

    The Dodge bed appeared solid with only surface rust (where I could see around the snowmobile). The inside of the tailgate looked good, and the outside showed a little blistering under the paint along a seam.

    He cranked it, but it did not start initially. After a shot of starting fluid, it fired right up and ran smooth with no oil smoke in the exhaust. There was a scratchy sound from the front of the engine, like the water pump might be going bad. I did notice the crankshaft pulley had a wobble to it. I couldn't tell if it was bent, loose, or something worse. I did notice quite a few drops of fluid hanging from the transmission pan.

    The $6,550 price on the windshield is for both the truck and the snowmobile, but the body shop owner believes his friend wants them sold, so he's pretty sure he's willing to sell them separately.

    The owner said it was OK for me to post this info and his contact information: B&H Body Shop, Snohomish, WA (360)-568-7676."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 62champ View Post
    E12-6447 - T6 trim - 5sp/OD

    Climatizer, radio

    For sale on Ebay, November 2014









    Holy moly! Is this the one that ended up in Driggs, Idaho, got towed over the Grand Teton Pass, and is now sitting in my patio? (And still waiting on the guy to send the title...)

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    That would be my guess, the 3/4 Ton one, with the reupholstered '55 or '56 Commander Door Panels, Ford Dual Master Cylinder, Power Brake Unit, New Edelbrock 4 Brl. Carb. and New Process Manual 5 Speed Overdrive Trans.

    You're just a bit late to the Party!
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