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    Working on a customer's car. We're putting 2 1/4" exhaust on it. He wants Flowmaster mufflers on it. He said Flowmaster Plush. I do not see them listed on the Flowmaster site. Anybody got a recommendation or part number? I do not have the original mufflers so I can not measure them for length or offset in and out. Since every body and their brother have Flowmasters, I prefer my good old glass packs, but this is what he wants. The exhaust came from Don Simmons. I just have to fill in the blanks.

    Claude
    1936 Dictator
    1950 Champion Regal 4 dr parts car
    1953 Commander Regal HT
    1953 2R5 Pickup
    1947 M16 Truck
    1949 2R16 Truck
    1960 Lark VIII Convertible
    1960 Champ 5E7 step side short box
    1962 Champ 7E5 no box
    1962 GT Hawk
    1963 Lark VI 4 dr
    1963 GT Hawk R2
    1964 Daytona Convertible
    1964 Commander Wagonaire

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln​

  • #2
    Flowmaster doesn't appear to list a "plush"...they're listed by series number. Their mufflers are also listed by dimensions. I have Magnaflows on my '70...I like their sound better than Flowmasters I've had on a different car. They have a more mellow sound that opens up with acceleration. In my experience Flowmasters are more raspy and loud...but we all have different preferences.
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    • #3
      This guy is hard to understand on the phone. Maybe he meant Thrush!
      1936 Dictator
      1950 Champion Regal 4 dr parts car
      1953 Commander Regal HT
      1953 2R5 Pickup
      1947 M16 Truck
      1949 2R16 Truck
      1960 Lark VIII Convertible
      1960 Champ 5E7 step side short box
      1962 Champ 7E5 no box
      1962 GT Hawk
      1963 Lark VI 4 dr
      1963 GT Hawk R2
      1964 Daytona Convertible
      1964 Commander Wagonaire

      “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln​

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      • #4
        All I can think of are the flowmaster Hush Power series...perhaps?

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        • #5
          I also find the Flowmaster on the harsh side. I always prefer the Walker Dyna Flow series and they make them in several sizes & outlet configurations. Check out their website for more info.
          Bill

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          • #6
            Thrush has always been a "Cheap" Muffler, I do not know if they have anything Quality.
            StudeRich
            Second Generation Stude Driver,
            Proud '54 Starliner Owner
            SDC Member Since 1967

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            • #7
              Originals were approx 26" in length, 2" in and 2" out, (I.D.) and no offset.

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              • #8
                put on either dynomax super turbo or cherry bomb turbo.. Throaty under acceleration yet you have a nice sound at idle Without waking the dead. My 53 gm has 2 1/2 pipes with dynomax ultraflow with a x-pipe.. Quiet when cruising but definitely opens up when you punch it.. It also has 400hp
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                • #9
                  My 67 has Flo-42553 mufflers on it, they are 2 1/2" but they may help you find the part number for your 2 1/4" or you could shim them. They have been on the car for many years and are holding up very well.
                  Milt

                  1947 Champion (owned since 1967)
                  1961 Hawk 4-speed
                  1967 Avanti
                  1961 Lark 2 door
                  1988 Avanti Convertible

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SN-60 View Post
                    Originals were approx 26" in length, 2" in and 2" out, (I.D.) and no offset.
                    Thank you for answering that question! Yesterday I determined 25" over all. So that's close. But I was thinking center inlet and offset outlet. I'll take another look. Your info was very important.
                    1936 Dictator
                    1950 Champion Regal 4 dr parts car
                    1953 Commander Regal HT
                    1953 2R5 Pickup
                    1947 M16 Truck
                    1949 2R16 Truck
                    1960 Lark VIII Convertible
                    1960 Champ 5E7 step side short box
                    1962 Champ 7E5 no box
                    1962 GT Hawk
                    1963 Lark VI 4 dr
                    1963 GT Hawk R2
                    1964 Daytona Convertible
                    1964 Commander Wagonaire

                    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln​

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                    • #11
                      Don has OEM style with three different levels of "loud"
                      I have the loudest on my '64, and love them........at a recent cruise to a large show, several guys behind me later said they loved the 'snarky' sound of my Avanti:-).........coming from guys that bleed FoMoCo blue, I took that as an Uber compliment:-)

                      At idle the car "burps" and really sounds like a ride with a big block and crazy cam:-)

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                      • #12
                        I'm still working on this piece of crap. Is there supposed to be a heat barrier attached to the underside of the floor? And what should I use? This car was originally single exhaust. This is the only time I have been involved with custom exhaust.
                        I ended up using the 15" (body measurement). The left side went OK. Heat and bend on the right side and the header pipe was hitting the starter.
                        1936 Dictator
                        1950 Champion Regal 4 dr parts car
                        1953 Commander Regal HT
                        1953 2R5 Pickup
                        1947 M16 Truck
                        1949 2R16 Truck
                        1960 Lark VIII Convertible
                        1960 Champ 5E7 step side short box
                        1962 Champ 7E5 no box
                        1962 GT Hawk
                        1963 Lark VI 4 dr
                        1963 GT Hawk R2
                        1964 Daytona Convertible
                        1964 Commander Wagonaire

                        “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln​

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
                          Thrush has always been a "Cheap" Muffler, I do not know if they have anything Quality.
                          I've never heard of "Plush" as a name for a muffler. I do recall "Thrush." Those bring up a mental image of a small diameter straight muffler that we also called "bullet" mufflers. They were cheap, loud, rusted away quickly, and could get you a quick ticket (back in the day), from a small town Barney Fife type law officer.

                          Claude, I admire you for offering your services to others. But, when I had my plumbing business, I learned that there were some jobs better suited for "others." I developed a network of "referrals" for those jobs. Hope it all works out for you and the customer.
                          John Clary
                          Greer, SC

                          SDC member since 1975

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                          • #14
                            This is my post on a 2 1/2" exhaust that I put on my 74 with T56.



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                            I can get it on the hoist if you need a few shots. I also have the Original 2" pipes if you need measurements.

                            Bob
                            Last edited by sweetolbob; 11-26-2014, 10:27 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jclary View Post
                              I've never heard of "Plush" as a name for a muffler. I do recall "Thrush." Those bring up a mental image of a small diameter straight muffler that we also called "bullet" mufflers. They were cheap, loud, rusted away quickly, and could get you a quick ticket (back in the day), from a small town Barney Fife type law officer.

                              Claude, I admire you for offering your services to others. But, when I had my plumbing business, I learned that there were some jobs better suited for "others." I developed a network of "referrals" for those jobs. Hope it all works out for you and the customer.
                              John,
                              Fortunately I do not do this for a living. I did a lot of other stuff to this car and the exhaust is last. I am more comfortable working on Stude powered Avantis. I only have two customers with Avanti IIs.

                              Thanks for your input and you are right. I'll be ready next time.
                              1936 Dictator
                              1950 Champion Regal 4 dr parts car
                              1953 Commander Regal HT
                              1953 2R5 Pickup
                              1947 M16 Truck
                              1949 2R16 Truck
                              1960 Lark VIII Convertible
                              1960 Champ 5E7 step side short box
                              1962 Champ 7E5 no box
                              1962 GT Hawk
                              1963 Lark VI 4 dr
                              1963 GT Hawk R2
                              1964 Daytona Convertible
                              1964 Commander Wagonaire

                              “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ~ Abraham Lincoln​

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