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  • Fuel System: Regarding rebuild of WCFB Carb

    Hi All-
    I recently purchased a rebuild kit for a WCFB Carb from a Studebaker parts vendor and commenced teardown. The kit does contain some generic parts for brand x cars as well, mind. My problem relates to the two small needles supplied loose in the bag. These, I believe, are the 'accelerator pump discharge needle' (shown in the Studebaker repair manual for the WCFB, fig 67 part no 5). When I was cleaning the carb I had to resort to blowing compressed air through a number of passages and had to remove four jets to facilitate clearing some stoppages. This thing was pretty fouled up because it had been sunk in a carby cleaner tank years ago and not broken down for repair. The upshot of this is that even though I'd shaken everything out, cleaned and soaked it, the needle down at the bottom of the pump discharge nozzles was still stuck down there and I was unaware of it. After blowing it out for a few tries eventually "something" shot over my shoulder with a pop and I figured it was more than just a mere blockage that shifted.
    Yep, sure enough on reassembly, I was up for a new needle to go in there but which one do I use? I don't have an original to look at. Just looking at the two replacements one looks about .015" longer than the other and I inserted it into the chamber. I screwed the discharge nozzle back in place with its gasket and shook the thing so I could hear it still free to rattle down there. I know it isn't bound down there, but does any body know whether I've chosen correctly?
    Steve

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    Steve give the carb a try, the pump discharge check valve probably wont know the difference. a squirt of wd40 in the hole will keep the needle from sticking in storage. next time lay a shop towel over the carb top then blow it out. a drop of penetrating oil on the needle then working round and round with a small diameter point like a scribe helps. Luck, Doofus

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    • #3
      That needle is also called a 'weight'. Apparently there were three different lengths of these originally and not all are available any more. Usually you'll see a pointed needle (for Studes) and a blunt needle with a check ball (56 Golden Hawk I think) in the kits. That's the only ones I remember seeing. I would probably use the lightest one, but as long as the accel pump nozzles deliver okay, there should not be a problem.
      Here's a pdf of the Carter WCFB manual you may find helpful.
      http://www.carbkitsource.com/carbs/tech/Carter/wcfb-service.pdf
      Also, here is the Carter bulletin on installing a bushing to prevent fuel slop in the bowl.
      http://b2bc0f80cc646b3e0d96-ef4bcbad3b15b44ea2fd5655baee33c9.r65.cf2.rackcdn.com/wcfb_carburetor_cutting_out.jpeg
      Restorations by Skip Towne

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      • #4
        Originally posted by doofus View Post
        Steve give the carb a try, the pump discharge check valve probably wont know the difference. a squirt of wd40 in the hole will keep the needle from sticking in storage. next time lay a shop towel over the carb top then blow it out. a drop of penetrating oil on the needle then working round and round with a small diameter point like a scribe helps. Luck, Doofus
        Thanks for the tips. I am rebuildng the engine currently and I don't expect to be able to run it for a while but I will certainly be mindful when I do. As a matter of fact i have dipped all the springs and checks in 'penetrene' to stave off corrosion.
        Steve

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        • #5
          Thanks Dwain- I chose to install the slightly heavier one, just a hunch. Thanks for the manual and Tech bulletin. I can machine the bush and install one if required.
          Steve

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