Performance Review: Pertronix Ignitor III Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit Install

[DEEPNHOCK]

Get the tag number off of your distributor and check it against their chart.
That is the best way to be absolutely sure for a Prestolite/Autolite distributor.

The purpose of this thread was to let Stude people know that one of the 'gaps' in Pertronix coverage for Stude V8 Prestolite/Autolite distributors has an alternative, and provide fact based feedback on that installation.
You still need to check your particular vehicle out as far as application goes.

In conclusion the best choice for my '56 Golden Hawk and my '60 Hawk would be the Pertronix Ignitor III kit 71385 (for Chrysler 8 Cylinder engine)?

I have to look for it in Germany

Thanks

[Santosh]

Thanks, I cannot find a tag number on the distributor.
Prestolite IBS-4012 ?

[DEEPNHOCK]

Walter...
Need more help here.
Which Stude is the one in the pic?
You put a number down IBS-4012. Which Stude is that for? (I have sent a request in to Pertronix on your behalf in the IBS-4012 asking for kit number info).

Can you take the rotor off and get a better picture of the points, and the point plate? (straight down)

We'll try to get you the info you seek.

[bezhawk]

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No, this looks like a Delco Distributor. Note the external wire terminal, and the screw holding the vacuum advance lever. &nbsp;BUT, the Packard Autolite distributors may also look like this, A Stude Delco usually has a carbon resistor rotor.
If this is your Packard Autolite distributor here is hat you need.PerTronix #1382 and PerTronix II #91382 Ignitor for Autolite IBJ-4001C D, & E distributors

[Santosh]

Delco R.....

[DEEPNHOCK]

Here is some additional info that might help.

http://www.1956goldenhawk.com/Packard%20V8%20Distributors.pdf

and.....

According to this one page, your Delco distributor should go by this number.... 1118064

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/466.cfm

So, it we use the number 1118064, we get to here...

http://www.pertronix.com/support/ignitor-kit/

Distributor ID 1110864 (Search Again)

Delco
1110864
8
1183N6
1183
1183P6
1183P12
91183

(and for the matching coil)

[Santosh]

Thank you Jeff, this is right for my 56 Golden Hawk . I'll check it tomorrow, because the engine is still in work . It will get an elektronic ignitor also. But the pics above are belonging to my '60 Hawk.

[DEEPNHOCK]

Thank you Jeff, this is right for my 56 Golden Hawk . I'll check it tomorrow, because the engine is still in work . It will get an elektronic ignitor also. But the pics above are belonging to my '60 Hawk.

OK...
Here are the Delco numbers...

• 1110839 - All 1953, '54 and '55 V8
• 1110864 - All 1958 & '59 V8, 1960 289 cu. in. V8 only
• 1110869 - 1960 259 cu. in. V8 only
• 1110969 - all 1960 cars w/V8 (except Hawk) & all 1960-61 trucks
• 1110969 - 1961 259 cu. in. V8 only
• 1110864 - 1961 289 cu. in. V8 only
• 1110981- 1960 & '61 V-8 Larks, all (this is the "window-type" unit)

So, yours should be a 1110864. (Unless your Hawk is a 259 V8)

Distributor ID 1110864 (Search Again)

Delco
1110864
8
1183N6
1183
1183P6
1183P12
91183

(and for the coil)

[345 DeSoto]

So, how many Ohms would a Stock 56 289 coil (12V) be?...

[DEEPNHOCK]

So, how many Ohms would a Stock 56 289 coil (12V) be?...

Here's some sources of info:

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A valid reading from the meter is typically within the range of 0.75 and 0.81 ohms. If you have a copy of the specifications for your particular model of Delco coil, use that information to know what is an acceptable reading for both the primary and secondary coils.


Read more : http://www.ehow.com/how_7928697_test...elco-coil.html

http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2006/06/01/hmn_feature33.html

http://www.hot-spark.com/Coil.htm

http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/powertrain-ignition-sensors-etc/topic1683.html

[DEEPNHOCK]

That's what this forum is all about... Helping, and learning, and sharing....
HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)


Pertronix Ignition for 56J

Originally Posted by Santosh
Thank you Jeff, this is right for my 56 Golden Hawk . I'll check it tomorrow, because the engine is still in work . It will get an elektronic ignitor also. But the pics above are belonging to my '60 Hawk.



Walter: You bought and registered your 56J after I reported on the Pertronix Ignition Saga. Go to our web site at www.1956GoldenHawk.com and click on Newsletters at the top of the window. Then select Issue 074. The story is on pages 1-2.

I installed a Pertronix Ignitor in each of my 56Js about 10-12 years ago. Joe Hall has been running a Pertronix II unit for at least two years (except for the time the motor was out of the car). I installed a Pertronix II unit in each of my cars just after Joe did his. No problems reported so far by the new owners. The correct units for your 56J are Pertrinix #1382 and Pertronix II #91382. Matt Rosa http://www.ponderosamustang.com has the cheapest price that I could find and if you mention 56J Only newsletter, he will donate $5.00 to our 56J Register.

Getting Back to The Subject of this thread:
Jeff: My Brother-In-Law bought a 1962 GT Hawk in 2013. I couldn't find a Pertronix unit for his distributor. Every year except 1962 was listed in the Pertronix catalog. I'll pass this information on to him. - Thanks!

[SN-60]

Best to leave conversions such as this one to vendors/mechanics like Dave Thibeault!...No 'guessing' with Dave, and it will be done right THE FIRST TIME! ...Tel# 978-897-3158...Massachusetts

[Dan Timberlake]

Seems like the clearances in distributors, even in good condition, show up as some dwell ( timing ) variations with points.
Even with worn distributors simple inductive electronic ignitions can still show up rock steady under the timing light.

I like that.

A bud's 400 cc 2 stroke dirt bike had worn its main bearings to having several 0.001s radial play. The points cam is part of the crank. It ran pretty good, but was a cranky beeatch to kick start. Ouch.
Adding a Spanish Motoplat magnetically triggered electronic ignition improved the starting 1000%.

[JoeHall]

Best to leave conversions such as this one to vendors/mechanics like Dave Thibeault!...No 'guessing' with Dave, and it will be done right THE FIRST TIME! ...Tel# 978-897-3158...Massachusetts

Ed, the subject, "conversion" amounts to little more than installing a set of points. About a 30 minute job, for most anyone who can screw in a light bulb.

[SN-60]

Ed, the subject, "conversion" amounts to little more than installing a set of points. About a 30 minute job, for most anyone who can screw in a light bulb.

Right or left hand thread?