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  • Upper outer Pin Bushing Torque issue

    I found the following question in another thread and I have a question to add to this - Let's say I torque just to 100 ft-lb - when I do that you can't freely swing the kingpin around like the book says.. Yeah, I can torque them down good but then there is no give - I was planning on greasing after the assembly but perhaps grease first? Also I am using the spreader tool but once the bushings make contact the ears do bend in quite a bit even with the spreader tool attached. I suppose they expect this and the spreader tool is to limit it some what.

    upper-outer a-arm install question

    Hello everyone!
    I have read many of the threads about this subject and have a pretty good idea how this is suppose to work( thanks to everyone!).
    I am doing my 57 Hawk off frame restoration. The frame is done and ready to start bolting front end parts on. I purchased new parts for almost everything(outer pins, hard bushings, seals & zirks), except I am trying to re-use the control arms because they are pretty expensive to buy. I realize these can only be used a few times because the hard bushings can "rethread" each time, and the control arm will eventually become un-usable because it will not hold the required torque. The problem is that it is a "judgement call" to decide if they will do the job "one more time". If I am reading my shop manual correctly, the required torque for the hardened bushing to the control arm is 170 ft lbs Minimum. That sounds like an awful lot to put on these upper a-arms. I am afraid they "will" strip out at that torque. I decided to give them a try, and the bushings tightened against the shoulder of the a-arm,and seem to be holding well at 110 ft lbs (no sign of stripping yet). I decide to stop there.
    When I removed the spreader, everythings seems to operates well.

    I know the book says 170 ft lbs, but do you think 110 ft lbs will be safe enough?? I would like to get everyones opinion on this one---As always ---Thanks to All!!------Regards Dan

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    Well let's put it this way.. The shop manual doesn't assume that you are connecting the kingpin to the upper A-Arm without the lower already connected so it's the lower one in the book where it says after you torque it, that it should turn freely on the pin - (yeah right)...

    Seriously though, when you tighten the upper bushings with the spreader in there, the lower portion of the ears do bend in some. I recall about 1/8th to 3/16ths so my guess is that the spreader only keeps it from buckling in to a certain degree but when you get it tight (without the lower connected yet) it needs quite a bit of force to get it to move any which way... Well, I'll try loading them with heavy duty polymeric grease this time. That should help quite a bit.. These are all new parts so I expected this to be easy... HAHAHAHA><. But I'm having fun though.. That's all that matters.

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