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Drive shaft won't slide in

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  • Drive shaft won't slide in

    I have nearly put my '63 wagon back together. One of the last chores is to get the drive shaft on. And it won't. the yoke slides into the transmission extension housing only a quarter of an inch and won't budge any further. I don't get it.[?] The shaft came out rather stiff as well. I just can't seem to get it to cooperate. I don't want to force things. That's when they break...[}]

    Any suggestions?[8)]

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  • #2
    Try wiggling it a little, but check inside the yoke for any corrosion.

    Tom
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    • #3
      It sounds like it's going into the seal (soft) and NOT into the bushing, (Harder) requires the yoke angle to be more accurate. Remember the engine and trans are tilted down in the rear. And of course, if the Wagon is a Wagonaire the "X" member keeps you from seeing anything![xx(]

      StudeRich
      Studebakers Northwest
      Ferndale, WA
      StudeRich
      Second Generation Stude Driver,
      Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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      • #4
        Lubrcate the yolk shaft inside and out with WD-40 or other light oil.

        GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

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        • #5
          Check the splines out very closly both the trans. and inside the yoke.

          GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

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          • #6
            ...and check for a master spline!

            Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
            Parish, central NY 13131
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            • #7
              Suderich, I have no idea what you are talking about. The yoke is lined up on the spline and it wont go onto it more than a quarter inch or so.
              The idea of a master spline is interesting. Though the manual doesn't mention anything. In fact, the manual has very little to say about this.
              Chevy has a seal that pushes onto the spline, does Studebaker? The book doesn't mention it. When I took the engine out there was a great deal, in fact the majority, of the transmission oil coming out the spline. Is this normal? When operating, the transmission looses almost no fluid. It's one of the least drippy trannys that I've ever had.
              Everything is so greasy I just don't see how it could corrode. Still, I'll try the WD40. Love the stuff! I buy the BIG cans. LOL!

              Lotsa Larks!
              K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
              Ron Smith
              Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
              K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
              Ron Smith
              Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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              • #8
                there is some play in the output shaft when the yoke is not inserted. You might have to wiggle it a little to get it started into the bushing (the bushing on the yoke actually provides support for the output shaft.) I am not aware of any Stude xmission that uses a master spline on the output shaft but I'm willing to be corrected.

                This can be a PITA if you've just replaced the front u-joint. the stiffness can fight you a little.

                good luck,

                nate

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                • #9
                  Yes, plenty of fluid will leak out when the transmission is tipped down at the rear with the driveshaft removed. The yoke riding in the seal is what keeps the oil in. The rear bore of the yoke is sealed with a soft plug or fluid would leak there also. On occasion a compression of air inside the yoke will occur when you try to push it onto the mainshaft. Are you feeling/hearing a 'clunk' when it stops, like it's hitting the tailhousing bushing, or is it more of a 'soft' stop?


                  Dwain G.

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                  • #10
                    Interesting... so the front yoke keeps the tranny fluid in? You know, I looked at the manual and it recommends lubricating the front yoke (the assumption being the inside?) and the transmission tail shaft with S.A.E. 90 Standard and Overdrive or Type A (AQ-ATF) Flightomatic Transmission... So since this is an automatic transmission I should lube it with auto tranny fluid? Trust me, it's soaked already.

                    B.T.B. Dwain? There's no sound, really, except my cussing (just kidding). It just won't move. The front yoke isn't into the tailshaft housing enough to create any kind of seal.

                    Lotsa Larks!
                    K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                    Ron Smith
                    Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
                    K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                    Ron Smith
                    Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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                    • #11
                      Somebody musta snuck in your garage and switched yokes on ya!! I hate when that happens!

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                      • #12
                        I remember once when I had a little difficulty getting the yoke to slip over the output shaft on a manual transmission. Ends up the shaft was turning right along with the yoke when I'd rotate it. I put it in gear to keep the shaft form turning and that cured it.

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                        • #13
                          Well, I tried most of the above and then jacked up the tail of the tranny just a little. There isn't much room down there, but 1/2 inch is all I needed aparently. It took a bit of wiggling, and she finally slid in.

                          Whew![xx(] What a pain in the... Well, anyway.
                          All I have to do now is get the brakes done and find a way of keeping the powersteering hoses from rubbing against the manifold/exhaust pipes.
                          I'm really looking forward to driving this car. It's a Daytona wagon and, though a little beat up, in good condition. Just a nice car all 'round.


                          Lotsa Larks!
                          K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                          Ron Smith
                          Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
                          K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                          Ron Smith
                          Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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