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**JDP** · 01-31-2010, 05:37 PM

quote:Originally posted by bondobilly

Not sure if this belongs here. My 1990 Buick Reatta convertible had an aftermarket alarm, engine killer installed. Well battery died and we re-charged it. Now if we go anywhere near the car the alarm(s) go off, if engine does start, it shuts down 5 min later and sirens kick in. I can remove the physical sirens, but need to remove engine killer door locker.

How do I disable this? Where do I look for a control box.?

Thanks

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"Quote:There is an in-line fuse above the parking brake pedal, It is a yellow 20 amp blade type. If you remove that it will disable your alarm but the remote entry will still work. The fuse is not the easiest thing to get to."

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**tim87114** · 02-01-2010, 08:54 AM

If you are looking for the aftermarket alarm box then check behind the dash. We often hide them either on the drivers where there is room. But in some cases we would hide them behind the glove box or center console area.
The easiest if at all possible is trace the siren wire back to the controller. Also, it maybe that your car is now in Valet mode. Some alarms use a toggle and some can use the remotes to activate a valet mode.
In the case of engine kill we would basically find the wire that runs from column to the ign system. Then splice in a relay. On newer alarms some have built in relays so we would only put a butt splice on it.
When you find the alarm control box let us know what make and model it is. Then you can do a search for the wiring diagram and find what wire is the engine kill and disconnect the alarm and jumper across the connector or re-connect the wires.

**bondobilly** · 02-01-2010, 04:19 PM

quote:Originally posted by tim87114

When you find the alarm control box let us know what make and model it is. Then you can do a search for the wiring diagram and find what wire is the engine kill and disconnect the alarm and jumper across the connector or re-connect the wires.

Had an alarm company come over. I bought this car just for summer drving and the alarm has been draining the battery since October. The fuses were placed in a box under the left side of the dash and a controller type box was buried by the siren. The unit was made by Audiovox. I cannot believe the markup on these units. My unit sells on Amazon for $62.50 and these places charge $450 to install. All I need now is a new battery and if we decide to take the car anywhere overnight I will install the fuses again.

The car acted like it was Christine, it would not allow the doors to be open to let Ellen out. We had to pop the top and she climbed out.

BG

**tim87114** · 02-02-2010, 03:37 PM

yea alarms are a good money maker. All labor. We would charge a flat 4 hour fee. I did Alpine and ungo alarms. I could install an ungo alarm in 30 minutes. That included installing engine kill, valet, door lock/unlock, parking light flash, siren, domelight and shock sensor.

On some cars though it took upto an hour because some manufactures like to make it a pain by wiring the door locks differently causing us to use relays.

Ironically older cars took longer because we would do hood and trunk switches added to the list above. It took time to tape off the area, drill out for the switch then run the wires.

I'm glad you got it figured out because that would have been a pain to help via internet

**okc63avanti** · 02-03-2010, 04:41 AM

While we are the subject of alarms ....

What is a good recommendation for a 63 Avanti? I would like one that will not only make noise but disable the car from being driven.

John

63R-2386 under restoration & modification

**bige** · 02-03-2010, 06:16 AM

If I can get in your car and open the hood there is no alarm system that could stop me from stealing your car. And, I would work under the hood rather than at the ignition switch beause someone tinkering under the hood of an old car draws no attention at all.

A simple well hidden kill switch might slow a novice down but if he knows what he's doing it won't matter.

The siren would just be an annoyance to bystanders who will do absolutely nothing to stop the thief from taking your car.

I use a brake pedal lock and keep my fingers crossed. It's visible from outside of the car and time consuming if not impossible to get off with hand tools.

Still a flatbead would be the pro's tool of choice because only the owner would think something wasn't right as your car is being loaded in broad daylight by a truck with a big AAA sticker on the side.

INMHO.

ErnieR

quote:Originally posted by okc63avanti

While we are the subject of alarms ....

What is a good recommendation for a 63 Avanti? I would like one that will not only make noise but disable the car from being driven.

John

63R-2386 under restoration & modification

R2 R5388 @ Macungie 2006________________ 1988 "Beater" Avanti

**gordr** · 02-03-2010, 06:45 AM

Ernie has the right of it. Have any of you rushed over to a vehicle on which the alarm is sounding, other than perhaps your own? Car alarms are forever being false-triggered by noise, traffic vibrations, and suchlike.

IMHO, the only alarm worth considering is one that is silent, and which notifies the car's owner by means of a pager. Incorporate a disabling device, sure, but not the damfool siren.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

**okc63avanti** · 02-03-2010, 07:38 AM

OK forget the alarm, how do you disable ignition or fuel with a hidden switch? Maybe the best bet would be some type of hidden GPS tracker but I have no idea what they cost.

John

63R-2386 under restoration & modification

**bige** · 02-03-2010, 08:07 AM

If you had an electric fuel pump a kill switch could disable it and the starter.

The tracking device is probably the best idea. LoJack is about $500 for basic tracking but it is only effective if the area police have tracking devices for use with the system.

There may be other GPS systems out there considering the technology that's available now. A GPS combined with a paging system would probably be the best.

The toughest thief to stop and track would be the one that just hooks the car up and tows it away. The only way you would know it's gone if there were some kind of motion detector and it knew to notify your pager.

I do believe that the Avanti is pretty far down on the car thief's list of cars to steal. Not a 'liquid' investment. They would have to be savvy enough and patient enough to know what the valuable parts are and my guess is that they would have to distribute them through a very public venue like ebay or Craigslist. Not too many local kids that need Avanti parts as opposed to a Honda Civic or Mustang.

I worry more about some kid slamming into me while texting a friend, driving Mom's Suburban.

ErnieR

quote:Originally posted by okc63avanti

OK forget the alarm, how do you disable ignition or fuel with a hidden switch? Maybe the best bet would be some type of hidden GPS tracker but I have no idea what they cost.

John

63R-2386 under restoration & modification

R2 R5388 @ Macungie 2006________________ 1988 "Beater" Avanti

**sweetolbob** · 02-03-2010, 08:52 AM

I would think the hidden kill switch with the brake/steering lock is the most effective deterent. It can make it difficult enough to frustrate the walk up thief.

If somebody is driving around in a legal looking flatbed, I think the best advise is to keep your insurance up to date. I can't imagine any normal person questioning AAA picking up a vehicle even if it only painted on the side of a flatbed.

Bob

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