Floor Jack

[bondobilly]

My 23 year old Hein Werner 2 Ton jack is going the way of all other stuff. It has lost it's umph. I have checked the fluid, greased it, and it just ain't the old jack it was. I think I paid around $400 or more for it back then.

Anyone have a suggestion as to a replacement?

[64V-K7]

The only thing that wears out, besides the caster wheel axles, are the seals in the pump and ram. The ram isn't likely to be at fault though. Can you take the pump apart?


Bob Johnstone

http://www.studebaker-info.org

55 President State Sedan
64 GT Hawk
70 Avanti (R3)

[bondobilly]

quote:Originally posted by 55Prez

The only thing that wears out, besides the caster wheel axles, are the seals in the pump and ram. The ram isn't likely to be at fault though. Can you take the pump apart?

I have no idea how to take it apart. It takes a good five minutes to jack up the car but once up, nothing will bring it down, and I can release it where the car can come down very slowly, almost like you don't see it coming down, or I can drop the car. Weird

[mbstude]

Don't some of those jacks have adjustment screws? Worth a shot.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

[DEEPNHOCK]

Bill,
At your point in life, don't screw with a balky jack.
We don't want to hear about how you got hurt for a hundred dollar jack.
Go buy a decent aluminum racing jack from Northern Tool or Harbor Freight and jack it up easy.
Donate the old one to the CASO in your chapter...
Maybe at the Chinese auction at the holiday party.
(I know you love that event!)
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by bondobilly


I have no idea how to take it apart. It takes a good five minutes to jack up the car but once up, nothing will bring it down, and I can release it where the car can come down very slowly, almost like you don't see it coming down, or I can drop the car. Weird

[wolfie]

Yes,I will second Jeff.Mine is still less than $75.00 at Harbor Freight and I have used it about 10 years now with no problems.It is a little heavy but about 3 ton capacity and very stable.They have higher capacity and aluminum ones for a bit more money.Steve

[bondobilly]

Northern Tool it is. A racing jack huh, it will be faster than me.

Thanks

[bams50]

Bill, this is my favorite, from harbor Freight. Love it. Super light to move, easy to pull the handle off for storage, etc. I carry it on road trips when I pick up Studes. At that price it's a throwaway, but mine's now over 2 years old and still works great. I highly recommend it; will lift any corner of a Stude with ease.

Here it is:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91039

They have a few others too; check them out.

Side note: My first racing jack was from Brunnhoelsel- 3-pump, lightweight aluminum; bought for my racing operation for race-night use in 1996: $800[:0]



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"

[bondobilly]

This is the one that needs to go. It raises up to 19 inches. Funny thing is that I checked Hien Werner on the web and they proudly state Made in the US. This one was made in Taiwan.

[jbwhttail]

Buy a good quality racing jack, two pumps and you are up in the air.........

I bought a Rousch Racing(I hate Fords) and it is the best. I've had Harbor Freight as well as Sears........ all chinese pieces of crap! I'm not chancing my life or the safety of the car to a "disposable" jack.

No offense to anyone but, we can replace metal........... not our bodies......

It is an addiction!

[torker]

We have some hydraulic brake line flaring tools at work. They are imports, and the whole kit costs $300-400, depending on who you buy it from. The rams eventually would fail, and they were setting them in the corner and buying new units every time, until Yours truly disassembled a couple of them, cleaned em up and installed some generic o-rings in them. They work fine, now. The trick was to make sure the one-way valve from the reservoir was blown free of seal fragments, and the passages in the pump were prefilled with hydraulic oil, to prime it. Floor jacks like that are pretty simple. So, Being that Hein-Werner has been around awhile, and they were pretty sturdy to begin with, there likely are service parts available(seals and stuff) to redo your unit, so don't give up on it, just yet. If we aren't resourceful, and able to extend the useful life of machinery, then what are we doing with old Studebakers?

[gordr]

Bill, that Hein-Werner is a dead ringer for my old Blackhawk floor jack, which was definitely made in USA. Must be all of 50 years old, and I was still able to get parts for it about 20 years ago.

You may find a hydraulic jack service company in your area. I must say I also have one of those harbor Freight racing jacks. It's nice and light, and fast. but it definitely takes more oomph on the handle to raise the front end of a Studebaker.

The old Blackhawk leaks a bit, but it still lifts like a Champ.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

[PlainBrownR2]

You might be able to go through a FLAPS if you want to rebuild the jack. Our Walker of 30 years gave up its ghost at least 5-6 years ago, so we checked with NAPA. Our NAPA was contracted with some sort of rebuild service so we gave them the jack and a couple weeks later we picked it up and its been working great ever since.

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[bams50]

quote:Originally posted by jbwhttail

I've had Harbor Freight as well as Sears........ all chinese pieces of crap! I'm not chancing my life or the safety of the car to a "disposable" jack.

No offense to anyone but, we can replace metal........... not our bodies......

Right... I did forget to mention not to get under a vehicle on one of these cheap jacks- always use jackstands- no matter how much you spend on a jack. Remember, jacks are for lifting ONLY- not support. But the cheap ones lift as well as the expensive ones.

As Gord said, the racing jacks do lift faster, but also take more effort to lift a car. Don't try to lift the end of a car at one time- lift one corner at a time and they're great!



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"

[DEEPNHOCK]

Northern hydraulics has real nice Blackhawk jacks for about $125
I have had several brands and styles over the years and currently have an aluminum jack that works great.
I think the term 'racing jack' has become bastardized to the point of becoming an innacurate description.
A true 'racing jack' has the pump changed to raise to full extension in fewer strokes.
I think a better term to use should be 'aluminum jack'.
I use my 'aluminum jack' all the time and truly do appreciate the lighter weight. (at least my back does).
As far as distrusting a jack?
Nobody should EVER be underneath anything just using a jack.
Jack it up, and put GOOD jackstands underneath.
(and nooooo, cinder blocks are not jackstands[xx(])
My only jack incidents were caused by poorly chocked and blocked wheels.
(My fault, though..Jacks don't like side thrust[B)]).
Bill, I sent you a few links to some good jacks via e-mail.
Some real good comments here.
Jacks are like cars. Brand loyalty is a quizzical thing, ya know)
Jeff[8D]

http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock