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    I got a mailer yesterday from a fast-lube type oil place, and it reminded me of this battle scar. So I thought I'd share a story from my own personal history about one of those chain fast-lube type oil change places. If you ever want to go to one of those places after reading this, you've been warned.

    It was late summer 2008, and I was a young guy, married, running his own film and video production business, and supplementing that income by managing a customer service center for a national mall management company. Life was good, except that my wife's minivan needed an oil change. Usually I change my own oil, but we had moved to a little house with a one car garage that my grandpa's Lark was occupying at the time. I didn't really have time to drive 40 minutes one way to my in-laws place to use their garage, so I figured why not bring it into the oil change place. After all, I had a coupon for $10 off, and this is a nationally known chain.

    I get the oil changed, and life seems fairly normal. Except until about a week later. My wife and I went to a movie, and it was raining. When we got out, we both stared in awe at the pretty iridescent rainbow reflection of sunlight that was coming off this stream of oil that we could follow through the whole parking lot until it came to a stop directly under our engine. I looked under the car, but didn't notice a drip. Still, it followed our path through the parking lot, so it had to come from us. I checked the oil, and sure enough, we were bone dry. So I after the movie I put the emergency quart I keep in the car in, and drove across the street to get more oil at the gas station. It was night by now, and the rain had stopped, so I couldn't really tell if the oil streak had followed us. Of course, it was such a faint trail that it was probably invisible on dry concrete, hence why it took a week to notice it. On top of that, We had a gravel road and driveway leading to our home which probably absorbed a lot of the evidence.

    With the oil filled, I decided that I'd take the car to the oil change place the next day after my wife and I both got home from work. Unfortunately, on the way home from work, the motor blew out on my wife. Putting the pieces together, it looked like much of the prior week the car had just been driven too long without oil. Of course, half of what I put in was also gone by the time the motor blew.

    So I took the van to a trusted friend from my church that was opening a garage. The mall kept cutting my hours for some reason, so I was a little tight on cash to pay cash for a motor swap. We worked out a deal where I would provide some much needed computer and a/v services to him, and he would replace the motor for just the cost of the parts. Excellent.

    A week later I pop into his shop to see the progress. He brought me to the stand my old engine was on, and I was sickened by what he showed me. There had been a very obvious manufacturing defect in the oil filter they used. The lip of the filter was visibly malformed, and it wasn't sealing - by a VERY noticeable amount. Whoever screwed it on failed to notice this glaringly obvious defect, which would allow oil to pour out of it any time the oil pump was active. He told me this filter couldn't have been damaged in the car, and that it had to have been installed like that.

    I contacted the lube place, and asked to talk to their manager. I was given a lot of run around, and finally found the manager actually yelling at me, telling me I didn't know what I was talking about, and how if I took them to court they'd win and then turn around and pounce me for the damages from court.

    I'd like to point out that I am not a litigious person, and he was the first person to bring up a lawsuit. I was simply trying to inform them of their error so they could deal with the employee who was apparently incapable of adequately using two or more of his senses, and ask if they would consider covering the cost of the parts since their employee was the one who led to the destruction. Long story short, the manager told me there was no way I could ever get a penny without a long, drawn out trial, and for the little bit that the actual motor cost (my mechanic friend re-used most everything that was bolted on the motor), it wasn't worth it.

    Then September 2008 hit.

    It turned out that the mall management company I worked for was one of the biggest contributors to the commercial property woes that led our nation to it's fiscal knees. As a result, they cut out pretty much all the middle management they could, myself included. I still had my own business, but as shocking as it seems, a luxury service like video production isn't in much demand when nobody can afford things like bread and clothing. Basically, i was out of work.

    Then around Christmas time there was another development. My wife turned out to be pregnant. So now, here I am, unemployed, with a pregnant wife, and an outstanding bill for services on a van. Great.

    I won't go into all the sordid details, but as a result of the stock market tanking, we fell into a nasty bit of debt, and my mechanic friend didn't get paid as we had agreed to. There's nobody to blame but me, but I let him take the back burner while I tried to keep our other vehicle from being repossessed and making sure we wouldn't get evicted. Our friendship fell into disrepair, and ultimately the mechanic just told me to forget about exchanging services and just to pay him the full value of the work done, a number in the thousands.

    Finally, last year, nearly 4 years after the ordeal was started, everyone was paid off again, and I could close that chapter of my life. But I can't help but think how much easier life would have been if that stupid oil change shop had just looked at the filter before they screwed it onto the car, and in turn screwed me out of a lot of money and very nearly a friendship, too. That $10 discount on my oil change cost me thousands of dollars and years of my life.

    If there's a moral to the story, it's that you should never, ever, under any circumstances take your car to one of those places. The people working there are often incapable of doing basic things like looking at the filter they screw on, or feeling it to see if it's seating properly. Change your oil yourself, or have a mechanic you can trust do it. No amount of speed and discounted rates can erase what happens if they mess up, and sooner or later they will mess up.
    '63 Lark Custom, 259 v8, auto, child seat

    "Your friendly neighborhood Studebaker evangelist"

  • #2
    Anyone with a brain can change oil, and it can be done anywhere, that being said if you someone doesn't even have two brain cells to rub together, they can screw anything up. I know someone who's dad took his 76 caddy in for an oil change out of laziness, they didn't put the drain plug back two blocks down the road and the engine started to seize. Best thing that ever happened to that car, he took for alot rebuild cash, had that 500 balanced blueprinted and put to 1970 specs. That made ridiculous power after that, and was way cooler for it. Sometimes a lawsuit really works out.

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    • #3
      The two best ones I've come across so far is forgetting to put the drain plug back in(or putting it back in and cross threading the plug, particularly if it's aluminum or plastic), and the ever faithful standby of forgetting to check or remove the old oil filter gasket, thereby compressing to gaskets on the spin on mount when the new filter is put on. For most things, I do my own dirty work(pun intended) when it comes to things like these, and that's usually why. The only guy to blame for a mechanical messup is the guy that did the job, which is me!
      1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
      1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
      1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
      1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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      • #4
        Dad took his new 51 Pontaic to the dealer for the first oil change. Started home. Engine started to get noisy. Pulled over and checked the oil. None there. The "tech" didn't put any in. Cost them a short block.

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        • #5
          The best thing you could do is tell everyone how they screwed up your engine.
          Fortunately my dad almost always did his own work and taught me how to change oil. I can use the hoist at work so that's nice too.
          We used to get cars in from the quick lube place down the street with screwed up oil pan threads.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bordeaux Daytona View Post
            The best thing you could do is tell everyone how they screwed up your engine.
            Fortunately my dad almost always did his own work and taught me how to change oil. I can use the hoist at work so that's nice too.
            We used to get cars in from the quick lube place down the street with screwed up oil pan threads.
            I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse, but the honest truth is that I'm just not a very vengeful person. About a year before my story began, there was a guy in the town we lived at the time whose car was messed up by a different quick lube type shop. (The "other" national chain). His response when that shop manager treated him about the same as my shop's manager treated me was to put ads out looking for anyone who had experienced problems at this shop. He found about 6 people, and for months, they parked all 6 of these cars on the street right in front of the shop, rotating them just often enough to avoid being hauled as abandoned. (Note: it was legal to park on this particular street.) Each of the cars had signs all over them in the windows saying "[that shop] blew the motor on this car! $xxxx in repairs!" And other similar warnings. I don't know if it impacted the business or not, as they never went under, and are still probably wrecking cars today. I really enjoyed the show, but like I said, personally doing that stuff just doesn't appeal to me.

            I think it's fair to say though that as a rule, avoiding all of these places is a good policy. I have heard similar stories to mine from a few other people in my circle of friends. My uncle told me about his story, where they talked him into a transmission fluid change, and proceeded to fill the engine with transmission fluid and the transmission with 10w30. Both were ruined before anyone figured out what was going on. Sure, you hear horror stories from mechanic's shops too, but nowhere near as often as you do for fast oil change shops. And mechanic's garages usually fix everything, where these places do about three things.

            I don't think pointing fingers at the chain or the particular franchise will do any good, because all the chains and all the franchises are equally terrible. Just avoid all of them altogether and you'll be a lot better off!
            '63 Lark Custom, 259 v8, auto, child seat

            "Your friendly neighborhood Studebaker evangelist"

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            • #7
              Most of the employees of the quick oil change places around here appear to be more adept at stealing cars than changing the oil in them.

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              • #8
                We have a local non-chain lube & oil change place nearby and they are pretty trustworthy, but I still have to stand there and point out where twenty one or so grease zerks are located, and I always take my own filter and oil on the few occasions I am too pressed for time to do it myself. Come to think of it, why bother going there???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 63 R2 Hawk View Post
                  We have a local non-chain lube & oil change place nearby and they are pretty trustworthy, but I still have to stand there and point out where twenty one or so grease zerks are located, and I always take my own filter and oil on the few occasions I am too pressed for time to do it myself. Come to think of it, why bother going there???
                  And think, they're the best of the best in their field!

                  We moved to my hometown during the adventure in the original post, and I am very lucky to know an excellent mechanic here for those times I'm to busy/lazy/dumb to do it myself. Unfortunately, he really is a top rate mechanic, and word about him has gotten out so much that you basically make an appointment several months in advance for anything. He's also gotten a lot more exclusive to what he'll even bother to take into his shop. If you need a small project done, expect him to refer you elsewhere. I wish he'd expand and train about 3 more guys to do what he does as well as he does it.
                  '63 Lark Custom, 259 v8, auto, child seat

                  "Your friendly neighborhood Studebaker evangelist"

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                  • #10
                    Your story reminds me of an experience a friend of mine had at one of those chain fast lube companies. He brought his car in to change the automatic transmission fluid. Well, you can guess what happened. His transmission burned out right after the fluid change was done. The thing we need to remember is that these guys aren't really auto mechanics. I will NEVER use one of those places. I have a mechanic that I have trusted for years. I may pay him a little more, but every job he's done for me, he's done right.
                    Rog
                    '59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
                    Smithtown,NY
                    Recording Secretary, Long Island Studebaker Club

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                    • #11
                      Went to one of those quick lube places one time. They "finished" my oil change and pulled my car around front and parked it. I paid the cashier what seemed like too little for an oil change and went out to my car. I sat in my car (now running) and studied the receipt for a moment. I realized they had only charged me for 1 qt of oil. I shut off the engine, popped the hood, pulled the dipstick and guess what.....nothing on the dipstick. At least they were honest! They only charged me for the 1 qt of oil they used! I walked back into the store with the dipstick in my hand and told the cashier "I'm no rocket scientist but I'm pretty sure a Ford 351 probably takes more than 1 qt of oil". I showed the dipstick in my hand to the Dipstick behind the counter and he had nothing to say. They added the remainder of the oil, refunded what little I had paid and I was on my way. Luckily, the old Ford Torino had almost 300,000 miles on it and was pretty worn out. No damage seemed to have been done by the lack of oil for the short time it ran. I probably could have driven for a day or two with minimal damage as worn as that engine was.

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                      • #12
                        For ten years I operated a one man mobile lubrication service. Most of my customers were big rig and rental car fleets. Each spring one of the rental companies would do a fleet wide oil change on all units. This was a total of about 3000 cars which had to be done over a three week period. There were two other lube services as well as myself. We averaged 200-220 cars a day between the three of us, working ten hours a day. Seventy cars each, or seven per hour, each of us working with nothing more than a set of ramps, a creeper and three drain pans. Considering all of that we only had one filter fail. Fortunately it happened before the car had left the lot.

                        The rental company used GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan and Hyundai vehicles, so we had to keep a large stock of filters.

                        Was I tired at the end of the day? Absolutely! The other two guys were 20 years younger than me, but I had no trouble staying with them. Add an hours drive each way for a 12 hour day.

                        Terry

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                        • #13
                          I thought I might add my experience to this post. My girlfriend had her oil changed on her nearly new Explorer at one of the quick-change places locally. When the oil change expert backed out of the bay with her Explorer I noticed that it was pouring oil out from underneath. It turned out that they didn't check to see if the old gasket came out with the filter. Man, what a mess. They cleaned it up and did it right the second time. The girlfriend was not a happy camper.
                          By the way does anyone remember the old canister type filters? I had one on a Ch*vy carryall that when I changed oil I had to occasionally use an ice pick to remove the gasket from the engine block.

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                          • #14
                            You are right to say the installer should have looked closely at that filter.

                            In my training ritual I always tell the end user that they are the last quality control step in the manufacturing process.

                            But I would not be so quick as to say it was a manufacturing process error.
                            I see a lot of damaged filters that were fine when they left the factory.
                            A lot of different people handle the filters in their circuitous route to your vehicle.
                            But...in the end...the installer has to look and decide if it is (a) correct, and (b) good enough to use.

                            And never EVER throw away a defective or damaged filter.
                            Don't cut it open and do your own forensics.
                            Save it in a garbage bag and contact the manufacturer.
                            They care about their reputation, and their products.
                            HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

                            Jeff


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