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  • #16
    quote:Originally posted by JDP

    Ted has not been able to get into the 9's even pulling over 600HP out of his heavy 51 Chicken Hawk, the Avanti, with less weight and more HP may do it. I know weight is the enemy, in my youth I raced a 68 Charger RT with a 375HP 440 and my buddy beat me in a 350 cu.in. Olds (W30 ?/W31 ?)

    According to the scales at Mid-Michigan, a 1969 440 Charger tipped the scales at 4067 with driver and fuel. A 350 Olds is only about 150lb less. My "lightweight" 340 GTS clocks in at 3600lbs with my svelte 205lb. backside in the seat.
    What is the rule of thumb?? A tenth for every 100lbs??
    I'm hoping for Ted to go deep into the 9's.[8D]
    Ted figures his Avanti to weigh in at 3400lbs. For all that tin work and fiberglass, that seems a bit much. I told Ted, in consideration of the 3400lb race weight, that instead of naming the Avanti "Son of Chicken Hawk" he might try "Son of Porky Pig". He didn't see the humor in that! LOL [B)][B)]

    Frank Remlinger
    SDC# A004602R
    Frank Remlinger
    Detroit, Michigan
    SDC# A004602R

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    • #17
      quote:Originally posted by JDP

      Ted has not been able to get into the 9's even pulling over 600HP out of his heavy 51 Chicken Hawk, the Avanti, with less weight and more HP may do it. I know weight is the enemy, in my youth I raced a 68 Charger RT with a 375HP 440 and my buddy beat me in a 350 cu.in. Olds (W30 ?/W31 ?)

      According to the scales at Mid-Michigan, a 1969 440 Charger tipped the scales at 4067 with driver and fuel. A 350 Olds is only about 150lb less. My "lightweight" 340 GTS clocks in at 3600lbs with my svelte 205lb. backside in the seat.
      What is the rule of thumb?? A tenth for every 100lbs??
      I'm hoping for Ted to go deep into the 9's.[8D]
      Ted figures his Avanti to weigh in at 3400lbs. For all that tin work and fiberglass, that seems a bit much. I told Ted, in consideration of the 3400lb race weight, that instead of naming the Avanti "Son of Chicken Hawk" he might try "Son of Porky Pig". He didn't see the humor in that! LOL [B)][B)]

      Frank Remlinger
      SDC# A004602R
      Frank Remlinger
      Detroit, Michigan
      SDC# A004602R

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      • #18
        The little Olds was that heavy ? Maybe it was the 4:11 gears/headers he ran that got him into the high 13's. best for me was 14.14 in stock trim./ t

        JDP/Maryland
        63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
        spent to date $54664,75
        64 R2 GT (Sid)
        spent to date $62,439.30
        63 Lark 2 door
        51 Commander
        39 Coupe express
        39 Coupe express (rod)

        JDP Maryland

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        • #19
          The little Olds was that heavy ? Maybe it was the 4:11 gears/headers he ran that got him into the high 13's. best for me was 14.14 in stock trim./ t

          JDP/Maryland
          63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
          spent to date $54664,75
          64 R2 GT (Sid)
          spent to date $62,439.30
          63 Lark 2 door
          51 Commander
          39 Coupe express
          39 Coupe express (rod)

          JDP Maryland

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          • #20
            Those are absolutely the best Studebaker photos that have ever been taken at The Pure Stock Musclecar Drags, Frank. [] Not only are the cars gorgeous, but you can see the expression on many of the driver's faces.

            (Now, I see we are going to have to clean the bugs off Peter Sant's exterior rear view mirror next year!) [:0]

            Please post ordering information. [:I] BP

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            • #21
              Those are absolutely the best Studebaker photos that have ever been taken at The Pure Stock Musclecar Drags, Frank. [] Not only are the cars gorgeous, but you can see the expression on many of the driver's faces.

              (Now, I see we are going to have to clean the bugs off Peter Sant's exterior rear view mirror next year!) [:0]

              Please post ordering information. [:I] BP

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              • #22
                quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

                Those are absolutely the best Studebaker photos that have ever been taken at The Pure Stock Musclecar Drags, Frank. [] Not only are the cars gorgeous, but you can see the expression on many of the driver's faces.


                Please post ordering information. [:I] BP
                Bob, I PM'ed the PhotoGuy for either his contact info, or for him to post the photos over here as well. I'll let you know what he says!

                Frank Remlinger
                SDC# A004602R
                Frank Remlinger
                Detroit, Michigan
                SDC# A004602R

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                • #23
                  quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

                  Those are absolutely the best Studebaker photos that have ever been taken at The Pure Stock Musclecar Drags, Frank. [] Not only are the cars gorgeous, but you can see the expression on many of the driver's faces.


                  Please post ordering information. [:I] BP
                  Bob, I PM'ed the PhotoGuy for either his contact info, or for him to post the photos over here as well. I'll let you know what he says!

                  Frank Remlinger
                  SDC# A004602R
                  Frank Remlinger
                  Detroit, Michigan
                  SDC# A004602R

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                  • #24
                    Here is the "Photo Guy's" contact info:

                    Michael Yoksich
                    30139 Bentley St.
                    Livonia, MI 48154
                    734-502-4425
                    thephotoguy@earthlink.net

                    If I recall correctly, he can reproduce those photos from 3x5 up to WALL SIZE POSTERS! [:0] And I don't mean posters that you hang on your wall, I mean posters as BIG as your WALL!!

                    Frank Remlinger
                    SDC# A004602R
                    Frank Remlinger
                    Detroit, Michigan
                    SDC# A004602R

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                    • #25
                      Here is the "Photo Guy's" contact info:

                      Michael Yoksich
                      30139 Bentley St.
                      Livonia, MI 48154
                      734-502-4425
                      thephotoguy@earthlink.net

                      If I recall correctly, he can reproduce those photos from 3x5 up to WALL SIZE POSTERS! [:0] And I don't mean posters that you hang on your wall, I mean posters as BIG as your WALL!!

                      Frank Remlinger
                      SDC# A004602R
                      Frank Remlinger
                      Detroit, Michigan
                      SDC# A004602R

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                      • #26
                        Thanks JDP and Buick guys for the small block stats chart, that is awesome!

                        I was interested in comparing the advertised HP vs the "HP" in last column. Which I assume is calculated HP, based on the speeds and et they ran, because it is different on each run. Interesting that almost every single Chevy is overrated, and all the Studes are underrated! [:0]

                        StudeRich Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA
                        StudeRich
                        Second Generation Stude Driver,
                        Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                        SDC Member Since 1967

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                        • #27
                          Thanks JDP and Buick guys for the small block stats chart, that is awesome!

                          I was interested in comparing the advertised HP vs the "HP" in last column. Which I assume is calculated HP, based on the speeds and et they ran, because it is different on each run. Interesting that almost every single Chevy is overrated, and all the Studes are underrated! [:0]

                          StudeRich Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA
                          StudeRich
                          Second Generation Stude Driver,
                          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                          SDC Member Since 1967

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                          • #28
                            quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

                            Thanks JDP and Buick guys for the small block stats chart, that is awesome!

                            I was interested in comparing the advertised HP vs the "HP" in last column. Which I assume is calculated HP, based on the speeds and et they ran, because it is different on each run. Interesting that almost every single Chevy is overrated, and all the Studes are underrated! [:0]

                            StudeRich Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA
                            "Buick guys"? Please don't throw me under that bus! [xx(] LOL!

                            For what it's worth, I think those HP figures are pretty darn close to actual rear wheel HP. I had my GTS on a chassis dyno a couple of times to dial in the A/F ratio and experiment with timing changes. The PSMCDR HP calculator was within 5HP of my true rear wheel dyno HP.

                            Now for some shameless self-promotion. If you want to see what the proper battery hold-down looks like on a non-Studebaker, that same photographer posted up some photos of my beater Dodge:





                            Frank Remlinger
                            SDC# A004602R
                            Frank Remlinger
                            Detroit, Michigan
                            SDC# A004602R

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                            • #29
                              quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

                              Thanks JDP and Buick guys for the small block stats chart, that is awesome!

                              I was interested in comparing the advertised HP vs the "HP" in last column. Which I assume is calculated HP, based on the speeds and et they ran, because it is different on each run. Interesting that almost every single Chevy is overrated, and all the Studes are underrated! [:0]

                              StudeRich Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA
                              "Buick guys"? Please don't throw me under that bus! [xx(] LOL!

                              For what it's worth, I think those HP figures are pretty darn close to actual rear wheel HP. I had my GTS on a chassis dyno a couple of times to dial in the A/F ratio and experiment with timing changes. The PSMCDR HP calculator was within 5HP of my true rear wheel dyno HP.

                              Now for some shameless self-promotion. If you want to see what the proper battery hold-down looks like on a non-Studebaker, that same photographer posted up some photos of my beater Dodge:





                              Frank Remlinger
                              SDC# A004602R
                              Frank Remlinger
                              Detroit, Michigan
                              SDC# A004602R

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Man, we're making progress now! [:0] The battery hold-down campaign is spreading outside The SDC Forum! BP

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