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    Having the right grease in the older Ross cam-and-lever steering boxes is important. Gear oil is wrong because it leaks out the gaps. Regular chassis lube grease is wrong because it is too stiff and won't redistribute itself on the worm. The right stuff is semi-fluid grease that is self-leveling; that is, if some of it is moved, it flows just enough to fill in the space but not enough to leak out of the case. It turns out this kind of grease has an NLGI number of 00 (two zeros). It's consistency is described in the Wikipedia article on NLGI as being like applesauce and regular chassis grease is like peanut butter.

    In the midst of rebuilding an old Ross box from 1929, I went looking for the right grease. As impatient as I am, I didn't want to wait for something special I could buy on line, like the Australian stuff. John Deere sells the right stuff as "corn head oil", but the area I live in is a little short on John Deere large tractor and harvesting equipment dealers. I was happy to find that Tractor Supply Co. carries "Super S cotton picker spindle grease 00". Now, we are also slim in having any cotton pickers here, but Tractor Supply has the grease for $4.99 a quart bottle and their store is only a few miles from my house. Their SKU is 105682899. They had it in stock, and you can check their web site to see if your local store has it. Joy for only $4.99! By golly, I think it is even the right stuff to use in my Gravely mower gear head.

    Here's a photo of one of the two identical Ross boxes I have. The worm and cups from the other box were in much better condition than the ones in the photo. I got new 5/16" bearing balls at the local industrial supply house. Amazingly, the pin on the lever in the photo was only slightly worn, so I won't have to grind out the pin and rotate it. Oh, and the old grease(s) that had been in the boxes since 1929 was about like tar, though there wasn't much left in the box in the photo. I think my next Harbor Freight/TSC purchase will be a recirculating parts washer.
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    Gary Ash
    Dartmouth, Mass.

    '32 Indy car replica (in progress)
    ’41 Commander Land Cruiser
    '48 M5
    '65 Wagonaire Commander
    '63 Wagonaire Standard
    web site at http://www.studegarage.com

  • #2
    Good info Gary. This is also the same grease that goes in the differential of my 30 year old Snapper mower
    Last edited by r1lark; 06-08-2016, 01:42 PM. Reason: spelin'
    Paul
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    • #3
      Originally posted by r1lark View Post
      Good info Gary. This is also the same grease that goes in the differential of my 30 year old Snapper lower
      I almost don't want to ask what your "...30 year old Snapper lower" is <G>. I CAN conjure up an image <G>.
      Gary L.
      Wappinger, NY

      SDC member since 1968
      Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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      • #4
        That's good information Gary, and I believe a much better choice than the John Deere cornhead grease, which is a polyurea base. The Tractor Supply grease is lithium base and compatible with most other greases. The John Deere cornhead grease is not compatible with any other greases.

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        • #5
          It seems Odd if it is more a Grease than an Oil, that they put it up in Bottles instead of Grease or Caulking Gun Tubes.
          Last edited by StudeRich; 06-08-2016, 12:40 PM.
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
          SDC Member Since 1967

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          • #6
            Rich, remember this is much softer grease than chassis lube. Like the NLGI definitions say, it's about like applesauce. I'm not quite ready to stick my finger in it until I'm ready to fill the steering box - but I will eventually. I'm pretty sure it will squeeze out of the bottle.

            Gary L: The mower is on the front of a classic Studebaker - a 1962-ish Gravely walk-behind with a 30" deck out front. The serial number tag even says Studebaker Corporation. I'm going to bring it to the meet in Warwick, you can see it there.
            Gary Ash
            Dartmouth, Mass.

            '32 Indy car replica (in progress)
            ’41 Commander Land Cruiser
            '48 M5
            '65 Wagonaire Commander
            '63 Wagonaire Standard
            web site at http://www.studegarage.com

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            • #7
              Thanks, Gary. Might come in handy soon cuz l'm changing all fluids right now in my '60 Lark hardtop that l just got last fall.

              Not much cotton pickin' cotton picking going on here either!! lol
              Roger Hill


              60 Lark Vlll, hardtop, black/red, Power Kit, 3 spd. - "Juliette"
              61 Champ Deluxe, 6, black/red, o/d, long box. - "Jeri"
              Junior Wagon - "Junior"

              "In the end, dear undertaker,
              Ride me in a Studebaker"

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              • #8
                Gary: I look forward to seeing you & Jane at the meet. Funny, I just got off the phone with Richard's L&G in W. Virginia with a Gravely order. I'm presently looking for a cultivator and rotary plow.....

                I know some of the Gravely attachments have soft metal innards and I've been using the GL-1 in them like my OD.....Any harmful additives in the "Corn grease " ??

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                • #9
                  Gary, is this the same grease that would go in the steering box for a 64 Champ? I've heard that the 8E has the IMPROVED and EASIER steering, but you can't prove it by twisting THIS wheel!
                  Mike Davis
                  1964 Champ 8E7-122 "Stuey"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by garyash View Post

                    Gary L: The mower is on the front of a classic Studebaker - a 1962-ish Gravely walk-behind with a 30" deck out front. The serial number tag even says Studebaker Corporation. I'm going to bring it to the meet in Warwick, you can see it there.

                    Gary A. - I wasn't referring to your Gravely. I was referring to Paul/R1Lark's "Snapper lower".
                    Gary L.
                    Wappinger, NY

                    SDC member since 1968
                    Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                    • #11
                      On my Ross steering box, there is a fill plug on top. How full is the box suppose to be?...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 345 DeSoto View Post
                        On my Ross steering box, there is a fill plug on top. How full is the box suppose to be?...
                        Fill to the fill hole. If you are lucky, some of it will stay there a while.
                        John Clary
                        Greer, SC

                        SDC member since 1975

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 345 DeSoto View Post
                          On my Ross steering box, there is a fill plug on top. How full is the box suppose to be?...
                          On an Avanti Ross box, at the very front of the box about half up from the lowest point there is a level check plug. Take it out and fill the box until lube comes out the level check hole. I assume that all Ross boxes have the same fill and check procedure.
                          Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
                          '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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