Serial plate tag replacement

[58 Hawk]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO HAVE A REPLACEMENT SERIAL NUMBER PLATE ON DOOR POST WITH THE CORRECT SERIAL NUMBER ON IT. i HAVE THE ORIGINAL ONE BUT IT WAS REMOVED AND REINSTALLED AND NC INSPECTIONS SAYS ITS A PROBLEM HAVEING THE HOLES IN ORIGINAL SERIAL PLATE
JUST WONDERING ?
JOE

[Deaf Mute]

All states are different... but from the factory the Studebaker assembly personnel, screwed them into place. That is the way it was.
We have the same problem with VIN numbers and state registration... Studebaker "doesn't fit the mold", but neither do other makes of the time period.
When Iowa changed the format for their license plate renewal forms... my "STU" on the old form became "STEWART" on the new form & I had to prove to them what a Studebaker was.
(I hope that answers what I think your question was.)

[BobPalma]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO HAVE A REPLACEMENT SERIAL NUMBER PLATE ON DOOR POST WITH THE CORRECT SERIAL NUMBER ON IT. i HAVE THE ORIGINAL ONE BUT IT WAS REMOVED AND REINSTALLED AND NC INSPECTIONS SAYS ITS A PROBLEM HAVING THE HOLES IN ORIGINAL SERIAL PLATE. JOE

Joe, by "holes," do you mean the little notches on either side of the serial number plate, or are there jagged holes in the plate where the factory spot welds were pulled apart? BP

[swvalcon]

I'am sure he will reply to your post but there is a member from down under that is repoping the vin tags. If you get a new one I would just glue it on with 3-m metal glue. No one will ever know.

[StudeRich]

All states are different... but from the factory the Studebaker assembly personnel, screwed them into place. That is the way it was.

Actually, the Serial Number plates on South Bend and Vernon (Los Angeles) built Cars were not permanently Screwed on.

The Engineering design was to notch the Plate on the side edges and drill the Door post for 2 screws to TEMPORARILY hold the plate and then use the 4 Dimples in the Door Post and the masked area in the Plate location to Electric Weld the Plate on with 2 to 4 Spot welds in those approximate locations.

What happened in Production, is they did not use the screws in most cases and just taped it on there any which way, and then Welded it.

58 Hawk: You may be looking at a State issued I.D. Number sticker to register that Car if NC uses them, NOT using it's original Serial Number, which you want to avoid if possible.

I doubt any "Replacement Plate" would Fly with your State Authorities!
Remember that most States inter your data in their System if you begin the Registration process, especially if they take your Money.

In that case they know you had a modified I.D. Plate, and any future attempts at registration will fail badly, and once they know you lied, you are REALLY Done!

[58 Hawk]

there are some holes from where factory welded to door post then it was removed and the holes are there but when remounted there is rivets where the notch in on the sides
Joe

[HAWK64]

I'am sure he will reply to your post but there is a member from down under that is repoping the vin tags. If you get a new one I would just glue it on with 3-m metal glue. No one will ever know.

Joe, the "down under" guy is Chris Skinner from Brisbane. Let me know if you need his contact details - Sir James.

[63t-cab]

That's what I would prefer to do also,but would probably put a few resistance spot welds on the new plate for visual effects.

I'am sure he will reply to your post but there is a member from down under that is repoping the vin tags. If you get a new one I would just glue it on with 3-m metal glue. No one will ever know.

[studegary]

I have used a thin double-stick tape to hold a new plate.

The problem with a new plate is getting the correct stamped numbers.

I would suggest using the original plate and filling the torn-in holes with braze or weld (better).

[Warren Webb]

Screws will not pass any DMV inspection. Rivets were used but not your average run-of-the-mill type but rather a special rivet that has notched sides as were used in the last couple years of Hamilton production & also by other makes. We used that type when Isuzu made trucks were imported & badged as Chevrolet or GMC's before they were sent to dealers for sale. Those special rivets came in a package from GM along with all the required I.D. plates.

Since the plates are stainless steel brazing would not be acceptable plus the heat would warp the plate anyway.

[swvalcon]

I think if you where to just glue it and not use any screws or rivets even with out the spot welds it would fly on 98% of the state inspections. You may find 2% that know there should be spot welds.

[karterfred88]

NC seems to be a problem for most "antique vehicle" owners, looking at the Jalopy Journal forums. Maybe a photo of your serial plate and your door jamb might give us some ideas on how to make it "look" legal enough to get it done. Or maybe you'll need to hire an expert in NC titling to do it for you. If there is enough of the weld left on the post, you might be able to JB weld it back on.

[Dwain G.]

If it were mine I would see if I could get a welder to fill the holes with stainless and make it look like a spot weld. Then make sure it is completely flat, polish it up, apply body panel adhesive to the back and stick it on, aligning it with the painted outline on the door jamb. Apply pressure from front to rear door jambs using a ratcheting clamp or 2X4, whatever, until adhesive is set.
Lastly, finish off with a new adhesive S-P label.

[oilnsteel]

Make them crawl under the car and look at the secret serial number, to help prove there is nothing aberrant about the plate. A good cnc machine shop could duplicate the engraving, but that ,of course, would be illegal.

JT

[55 56 PREZ 4D]

With a new plate in place, no matter how you install it, your inspections station may still question it.
Because it looks too new. oilnsteels suggestion to show the secret serial number on the frame is smart. But who says your inspections people are smart.
In California we are allowed to purchase original "year of manufacture" license plates for use on older cars.
People have had trouble registering them because they had them restored first then took them in to register. Better to register them first then have them restored.
D M V said they were new "reproductions" not originals and were illegal.