Ford 289 V8 used by Studebaker

[wittsend]

Yes, I mean how many time I've had to tell people the Shelby Cobra, Sunbeam Tiger and the TVR used the STUDEBAKER 289. Some people are just SO misinformed!

Seriously though, even in my Pinto world there is a lot of misinformation floating around out there. People stating they came with of all things a 289 (this is the Studebaker/Pinto 289 misinformation tie in), inline 6, 5 speed or they had a 81 and up Pinto. The answer is "No" to any of that. Just to help anyone out should you find yourself chatting Pinto's some day:
1971-1980
1.6 Kent (British), 2.0 (German), 2.3 (American) and 2.8 V-6 (German).
4 speed, 3 speed automatic.
Rear ends,trunk back, half hatch back (looked like a trunk model but the whole hatch opened), hatch back (mostly glass), station wagon, cruise wagon (side panels with porthole windows). Three front ends - original, angled grill (similar to original) and squared front with square headlights. All were 2 door. And, lastly they didn't "burst into flames" more than any other small car hit from the rear.

[Dan Timberlake]

Original info was in "Chevrolet Small-Block V-8 Id Guide" Chapter 17.
Published by MotorBooks , by Pierre Lafontaine

https://books.google.com/books?id=V7yxdNm3n8gC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=you+may+wonder+why+this+chapter+exists+at+all&source=bl&ots=u7BKXSyvFL&sig=srf1uEGwFsSBQLNIYTIlrcswUno&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimlOfUxt7JAhULaz4KHYvXAJkQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=you%20may%20wonder%20why%20this%20chapter%20exists%20at%20all&f=false

On Amazon one review ranked it 1 star claiming misinformation on Chevy engines.

[studegary]

The article must be from the mid 2000s since it says the Avanti is "still in production". Apparently the last few Avantis made before the corporation went under were using Ford motors & chassis?

The 2005-2007 Avantis were based on Ford Mustangs (including V6 and V8 engines).

[doug]

This is why I like the 259. It is made by the same people, when they ask "Who built Studebakers?".

[Peanut]

There are a bunch of newbies reading this thread who are going to be all kinds of confused right about now. :P

[ert62 hawlk]

So the Stude 259 is actually the Ford 260, daddy of the 289 or vice versa which is in my 62GT-now it makes sense. If I knew how I would put one of those smiley faces here.

[DougHolverson]

Seriously though, even in my Pinto world there is a lot of misinformation floating around out there. People stating they came with of all things a 289 (this is the Studebaker/Pinto 289 misinformation tie in), inline 6, 5 speed or they had a 81 and up Pinto. The answer is "No" to any of that. Just to help anyone out should you find yourself chatting Pinto's some day:
1971-1980
1.6 Kent (British), 2.0 (German), 2.3 (American) and 2.8 V-6 (German).
4 speed, 3 speed automatic.
Rear ends,trunk back, half hatch back (looked like a trunk model but the whole hatch opened), hatch back (mostly glass), station wagon, cruise wagon (side panels with porthole windows). Three front ends - original, angled grill (similar to original) and squared front with square headlights. All were 2 door. And, lastly they didn't "burst into flames" more than any other small car hit from the rear.

Hey! Another Pinto guy!

[Lou Van Anne]

So the Stude 259 is actually the Ford 260, daddy of the 289 or vice versa which is in my 62GT-now it makes sense. If I knew how I would put one of those smiley faces here.

Now you have me wondering....were the Studebaker 6s also Fords?

[TWChamp]

Now you have me wondering....were the Studebaker 6s also Fords?

Isn't my 1950 Champion built using a 170 Falcon engine?
I'm still wondering why Rambler quit making Studebakers at the end of 1963?

[Mikado282]

So the Stude 259 is actually the Ford 260, daddy of the 289 or vice versa which is in my 62GT-now it makes sense. If I knew how I would put one of those smiley faces here.

Except for the fact the Studebaker engine weighs almost 200 lbs more.

[stude dude]

I have been telling Mustang owners that their 289 motors were made by Studebaker!

Chris.

[plwindish]

And I suppose Studebaker could not import the Ford 289 engine into Canada to put into the Studebakers made in Hamilton right??? The engine chart also had the wrong Avanti motor information for the 1976 models as they were equipped with the 400 small block motors. I believe 350's were used in 77 and 78 before going to the 305's 79 - 91.

[wittsend]

I'm no expert on the subject..., but what I've read the decision to opt for the Chevrolet (McKinnon) engine was that Checker used the same BW transmission as Studebaker and thus had an available bellhousing that mated to the Chevy engine.

What would have further complicated the matter had they actually used a Ford 289 is about this time period Ford went from the 5 bolt to the 6 bolt bellhousing.

[8E45E]

I'm no expert on the subject..., but what I've read the decision to opt for the Chevrolet (McKinnon) engine was that Checker used the same BW transmission as Studebaker and thus had an available bellhousing that mated to the Chevy engine.

The 283 was the only engine that would fit perfectly in the Studebaker engine compartment. http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...hlight=checker

And it was by pure fortune on Studebaker's part that Checker was already using Chevrolet engines with the B-W transmission making it no problem to adapt.

Craig

[studegary]

And I suppose Studebaker could not import the Ford 289 engine into Canada to put into the Studebakers made in Hamilton right??? The engine chart also had the wrong Avanti motor information for the 1976 models as they were equipped with the 400 small block motors. I believe 350's were used in 77 and 78 before going to the 305's 79 - 91.

I believe that Avanti used 350s 1970-1971 & 1977-1980 and then used 305s 1981-1991 (1972-1976 were 400s) .