Factory Colors on Speedsters

[1954MGTF]

1. I am new here, and I see a past post on this, but the link that was put up a few years ago no longer works. Can anyone tell me where to find or what they are?

2. I see a past post said this info is in the Sept 1998 issue of Turning Wheels. Can anyone scan that portion for me or is this not allowed?

3. A car I am interested in on the factory sheet says it was originally "P2675 Coral-Gry" Does this mean it was Coral on top and center and Gray on bottom or were all these cars really White top, Coral middle, Gray bottom? I know the middle was Coral as it still has that color under hood firewall and trunk.

4. Finally, how much if any does it hurt the value painting a Speedster a factory color, but not the one on factory build sheet?

Thanks, Keith in NJ

[Studebaker Wheel]

Keith;

I wrote an extensive article (12 pages) on the Speedster for the October 1998 issue of Collectible Automobile and also the 4 page article for Turning Wheels (that you mention) in my monthly column "The Almanac" in Sept 1998. I did research on all 2215 Speedsters (examining the over 23,000 President production orders) and did a statistical breakdown of all colors and options. I am including below the information relevant to the paint colors that you ask about. The paint color code 2675 is for the Coraltone/Pimilico Gray combination. If you were to use any of the other standard colors shown on the Speedster in your restoration it WOULD NOT count against you in judging. Fortunately the SDC has never gone the route of the Chevy or Mopar guys and got involved in all that matching numbers nonsense and having the car identical to the way it was assembled. Hope that day never comes! I believe you would enjoy the Collectible Automobile article as copies of that issue show up frequently on Ebay. As for the Turning Wheels article (Almanac column), I could copy that and snail mail it or email a copy for a small fee.

[rkapteyn]

Talking about a matched numbers car , I once saw an ad for a "matching numbers" Studebaker.I called the owners asking what he meant with "matching numbers"
He said that the vin number plate matched the number on the tittle.
Robert Kapteyn

[EssexExport]

Saw this nice one at the Waterbury Zone Meet:

[53k]

1. I am new here, and I see a past post on this, but the link that was put up a few years ago no longer works. Can anyone tell me where to find or what they are?

2. I see a past post said this info is in the Sept 1998 issue of Turning Wheels. Can anyone scan that portion for me or is this not allowed?

3. A car I am interested in on the factory sheet says it was originally "P2675 Coral-Gry" Does this mean it was Coral on top and center and Gray on bottom or were all these cars really White top, Coral middle, Gray bottom? I know the middle was Coral as it still has that color under hood firewall and trunk.

4. Finally, how much if any does it hurt the value painting a Speedster a factory color, but not the one on factory build sheet?

Thanks, Keith in NJ

This rather hard to read chart shows what the color combinations were available of Speedsters and how they were applied.

[PackardV8]

In fifty years of watching people watch Studebakers, without doubt the lemon-lime (Hialeah Green/SunValley Yellow ??) Speedster gets more attention than any other car or color combination.

jack vines

[Chris Pile]

In fifty years of watching people watch Studebakers, without doubt the lemon-lime (Hialeah Green/SunValley Yellow ??) Speedster gets more attention than any other car or color combination.

Which I don't understand at all - I find it nauseating.
The tri-color pink/gray/white is much more interesting and beautiful in my opinion.

[RareBird]

I am thankful that they don't judge color by the build sheet. I wanted a Packard Hawk for 35 years, just not a Beige one!!

[1954MGTF]

Wow! What a great group of enthusiasts for my first post. I am impressed, but not surprised as I find Stude owners a friendly group from the few that I have met. Richard Quinn - what a great work you have done! As having done a similar task for MG TF models, largely unappreciated, I know the hours and hours it takes to get that one little page; thanks for sharing for free with me.
Glad this club does not dig into records to find the right color. Neither does the MG T as mine was Ivory originally and I painted dark green.
A question - the car I am thinking of buying, if I can find someone in Sacramento to look at it, is coded P 2675 Coral-Gry. It is a CA car. Does this mean it was gray top, pink middle, gray bottom? These cars are 3 parts - top middle bottom. So when it only shows two colors, what is the placement? For example you show both a Shasta White/Velvet Black and a Velvet Black/White. Explain the placement on the car of the 3 parts.
Thanks so much for all the responders. I read every word, and surprised to see a Jersey name! I grew up in N Indiana and my first car was a 53 6 stick coupe my dad gave me, an old car even then. Then I bought a 53 hardtop 8 automatic. Always wished I had an 8 stick!

[Studebaker Wheel]

You are welcome. Below a Export letter that, I believe, will answer your questions re paint. By the time it was issued in May 1955 the Hialeah Green/Sun Valley Yellow was being phased out. It should be noted that the only true tri-color was the P2678. All others were two color only with top and bottom painted the same color.

[8E45E]

Keith;

I wrote an extensive article (12 pages) on the Speedster for the October 1998 issue of Collectible Automobile and also the 4 page article for Turning Wheels (that you mention) in my monthly column "The Almanac" in Sept 1998. I did research on all 2215 Speedsters (examining the over 23,000 President production orders) and did a statistical breakdown of all colors and options.

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I wonder if the "Gold" used on 7167925 was the same gold as used on the dash (and some President sedan dashes).

EDIT! Possibly found the answer, it is NOT 'gold' at all!! http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...old-isn-t-gold

Craig

[rockne10]

There used to be a web site devoted to the Speedsters that was very well organized, and even slightly interactive regarding factory colors. I haven't seen it in some time and think the owner of the site may have let the address expire.

[studefan]

Coraltone/Pimlico Gray/Coraltone

[3rdGenStude]

When I still had my Speedster project, I had hoped to find a paint code and use that combo. I got as far as writing to BSF (parent company of Rinshed-Mason sp??) to see if they could trace any record of it, but they couldn't.

Paul

[SN-60]

[QUOTE=Studebaker Wheel;

Fortunately the SDC has never gone the route of the Chevy or Mopar guys and got involved in all that matching numbers nonsense and having the car identical to the way it was assembled. Hope that day never comes!

I disagree with this statement....If someone is striving to bring a classic/special interest vehicle back into 'factory stock, original' condition, I believe the desire said vehicle have its factory installed engine, if at all possible, is legitimate. I known someone from Portugal with a 1955 President Speedster under restoration who considers it quite important to obtain the original, production order matching engine for that Speedster. Another example...Would the final Studebaker Avanti to be assembled, (R-5643) be as rare, correct, desireable, and VALUABLE if sometime early in its life the factory installed R3 engine was removed for some reason and a replacement R3 engine block installed in the car?..frankly, I doub't it! (IMHO)