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  • At the auto parts store: "I'd like an axle key, please."

    I wanted to get the last little bits done on the rear axle for the Indy car replica. The axle came out of a 1928 Studebaker model GB sedan, was missing one of the 1/4 x 1/4 x 3 inch long keys for the tapered shafts to engage the hubs. Lots of cars had tapered axles, and I think many trucks still have them. So, during my Saturday afternoon errands run, I stopped at the local Auto Zone store and asked the young woman behind the counter for an axle key. Looking a little mystified, she started typing into the store computer's Search function: "axel key". Of course THAT didn't turn up anything, so I suggested she try "axle key" instead. Still no luck. Just then a 20-something know-it-all male counter clerk, asked what I was looking for, so I told him. "Axle key? No, never heard of that", he said dismissively, as if no such thing could possibly exist and that I was the stupid one. Sigh!

    It seems the only thing that the chain auto parts store clerks know is to look parts up by a specific make/model/year. Asking for a generic part is asking for an exercise in frustration. I'd already been through that looking for 1/2-20 lug nuts with 3/4" hex, finally had to say 1960 Buick LeSabre, since that's what my rear brake backing plates came from. Fortunately, there are still a few old-time parts stores with old-time guys in them near my house. I just need to go there on a week day morning.

    I left the store, would have gone to a REAL auto parts store but it was too late in the afternoon, went to Lowe's in hopes of a miracle. They didn't have any square key stock, but I did find 1/4 x 1/4 x 1-1/2 inch long keys in one of the Hillman drawers in the nuts and bolts section, so I bought two and called it a day.
    Gary Ash
    Dartmouth, Mass.

    '32 Indy car replica (in progress)
    ’41 Commander Land Cruiser
    '48 M5
    '65 Wagonaire Commander
    '63 Wagonaire Standard
    web site at http://www.studegarage.com

  • #2
    Know the feeling Gary.
    I had purchased a 1963 Daytona Wagonaire from a neighbor of my brother's. I was visiting my Mom and brother in Nashua NH where the Studebaker was located. I was going to drive the Studebaker back to NJ with my wife following in our trusty Subaru Legacy.
    Studebaker needed a new battery, so off to nearest auto part store I went. Happened to be a Parts Plus chain store. I went in and asked for a group 24 battery, blank stare is what I received. The clerk had no idea what a group 24 was, "what kinda car do you need a battery for?" He asked.
    I replied "a 1963 Studebaker Daytona Wagonaire" another blank stare! Finally I asked if I could go with him to the battery aisle in the rear of the store. He agreed and I picked out the group 24 battery, paid for it and installed the battery.
    Drove the Studebaker back to New Jersey with no problems.
    sigpic1957 Packard Clipper Country Sedan

    "There's nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer"
    Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle
    "I have a great memory for forgetting things" Number 1 son, Lee Chan

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    • #3
      I can just SEE the Blank, Deer in the Headlights look on Her face! Lol!

      You don't want Ignition, Door or Trunk Keys?

      I am surprised She did not say: "are you sure you don't need a Muffler Bearing?"
      Last edited by StudeRich; 08-02-2014, 12:44 PM.
      StudeRich
      Second Generation Stude Driver,
      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
      SDC Member Since 1967

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      • #4
        Gary - I suggest you try Tractor Supply. A lot of farm equipment still uses axle keys.....
        The only difference between death and taxes is that death does not grow worse every time Congress convenes. - Will Rogers

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        • #5
          it's sad! if i need a "real" part, not oil/filter, etc. from the Autozone or Advance nearby, i go on their website at home to see if they have the part listed and if it is in stock. if it is, i write down the part number and price. the counter help(?) still need to know the specific make/model as apparently a part # can't be searched for on its own - or they don't know how to do so...

          luckily, there is a NAPA and a Carquest on the other side of town that have "real parts books" and folks that know how to use them.

          otherwise, it's time to hit the "interwebs" and wait for it to be shipped.

          I'm speaking mainly about non-Studebaker parts. for Studes, i'll use the: http://www.studebakervendors.com/ or the swap page: http://www.studebakerswap.com/swap/swap.php

          Mr. Ash and others that have posted: i know y'all are aware of all of this, but the Studebaker links were posted mainly for the influx of new forum members showing up lately!!!
          Kerry. SDC Member #A012596W. ENCSDC member.

          '51 Champion Business Coupe - (Tom's Car). Purchased 11/2012.

          '40 Champion. sold 10/11. '63 Avanti R-1384. sold 12/10.

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          • #6
            Next time tell them you just bought a 1949 Mercury with a six cylinder engine and you need to know how many quarts of oil it needs. Back in the body shop in the early '60's we'd send a newbe out looking for that information... all of the auto parts stores in town was in on it and would send them to the next store. (Mercury didn't have a 6 until the early '60's!)

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            • #7
              Try asking for a woodruff key next time.
              American iron, real old school
              With two tone paint, it sure is cool

              Its got 8 cylinders and uses them all
              With an overdrive that just won't stall

              With a 4 barrel carb and dual exhausts
              With 4.23 gears it can really get lost

              Its got safety belts and I ain't scared
              The brakes are good and the tires are fair.

              Tried to sell her, but got no taker
              I"ll just keep driving my Studebaker

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              • #9
                Originally posted by garyash View Post
                I'd already been through that looking for 1/2-20 lug nuts with 3/4" hex.
                Gary: In the future, those 3/4-hex, 1/2-20 NF lug nuts are NAPA #641-2026. 'No need to tell anyone what you are using them for if you just go to a NAPA store to buy them using their part number.

                That is a standard Studebaker-replacement lug nut and will pull through Ford wheel lug nut holes sooner or later.

                Fortunately, NAPA markets a 3/4-hex 1/2-20 NF lug nut with a wider seat flange that will allow Studebaker owners to use Ford wheels without changing their lug wrench. That nut is NAPA #641-1528.

                We have photos and a description of those lug nuts coming up in the September 2014 Turning Wheels Co-Operator. I had researched it earlier and reported it there. (I just signed off on the September Co-Operator proof earlier this week, so "don't touch that dial!") BP

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                • #10
                  I've almost always had a foot or so of 1/4" key stock in the bottom of the tool box. It's too easy for it to not be in the way.
                  Brad Johnson,
                  SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                  Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                  '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
                  '56 Sky Hawk in process

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                  • #11
                    Try finding a #12 pan head screw anywhere.... #10 or a 1/4 20 no problem

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                    • #12
                      Went into an Auto Zone (only because I was in a hurry, and it's the closest store to home) and a former hamburger-flipper asks what I need as soon as I get in the door. "Do you have a nut-splitter?" I asked, as I looked at the electrical section right in front of me for something else I needed. "Hmm. Let's see..." he says as he starts staring intently at the same electrical display of connectors I'm perusing. "I don't know, what car is it for? We'll check the computer." Well, I knew I wasn't going to get anywhere with him or anyone else listening in the store.
                      And I didn't.
                      KURTRUK
                      (read it backwards)




                      Nothing is politically right which is morally wrong. -A. Lincoln

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                      • #13
                        I know the feeling!! Redoing my parking brake cable on the 63 Avanti, found the clevis pin on the end of the old cable "fused" to the clevis, had to use a cutting wheel to get it off (after destroying a cheapo puller trying to press it out. Went to all the "hardware stores" and easily found a clevis pin. No clevises! Every hardware store used to carry them. None at the local FLAPS either! Had to go online to find and order one, and when I got it, it didn't come with a new pin!! When I go to an Auto Parts Store now I know if I can't find it, they won't know how to get it either.

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                        • #14
                          I just enjoy the blank stare from the young know it all when I ask for a XXXXXX for a '55 Studebaker Speedster. I refuse to show any emotion when I insist they must be looking under the wrong category when I know I lost them at XXXXXX, then at '55, then at Studebaker....... .

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by mmagic View Post
                            Try finding a #12 pan head screw anywhere.... #10 or a 1/4 20 no problem
                            Yes, the acuator rod thread size on a recent brake booster project was a 12/28. I had to find a longer rod, so......hmmmmm Wound up that in the old nut/bolt jar, were a couple extra parts from maybe an Ikea knock down piece... They fit fine... Could this size actually cross to a Metric size?
                            64 GT Hawk (K7)
                            1970 Avanti (R3)

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