Paint on a '62 Hawk

[54-61-62]

I'm quite positive that Dulux has not been available since the early 90's.

I'm personally an advocate of Centari. Most my cars get painted with it (though I have used Valspar farm equpment enamel with hardner). It is a great paint for the idiot painting a car in his driveway: its forgiving. Spray it with hardner, slow flash reducer and a final "flood coat" and you'll get a shine thats probally similar to factory paint. Also, single stage enamel is much more easily touched up or rubbed out then BC/CC for a driver.

Believe me, a few scuff marks or stone chips are much less noticable on single stage enamel then most BC/CC systems. On a perfect super high gloss BC/CC finish you will notice EVERY inperfection. Including the bug marks that got stuck in your paint while it was drying in your driveway

Kent

quote:Originally posted by skyway

Gee, I didn't know that Dulux was still available. Does anybody think Dulux holds up better than Centari. Reason I ask is that:

When my first late old time body man painted my GT back in 1977, he used black Dulux, and mixed a bit of clear into the final spray. That was one deep and shiny finish and, but for 30 years of dings and dangs, still pretty shiny. He also repainted my old Beetle in Dulux (Ceramic Green without any clear added)and that was still holding up when I sold it about 15 years later.

Subsequently, in about 1991 my second late old time body man painted the '64 Cruiser Bordeaux Red in Centari. That paint has essentially gone dull and lifeless.

All of which comes full circle to Ragtop's comments on masks. There is good reason why there are not a lot of surviving old time body men around.

[54-61-62]

I'm quite positive that Dulux has not been available since the early 90's.

I'm personally an advocate of Centari. Most my cars get painted with it (though I have used Valspar farm equpment enamel with hardner). It is a great paint for the idiot painting a car in his driveway: its forgiving. Spray it with hardner, slow flash reducer and a final "flood coat" and you'll get a shine thats probally similar to factory paint. Also, single stage enamel is much more easily touched up or rubbed out then BC/CC for a driver.

Believe me, a few scuff marks or stone chips are much less noticable on single stage enamel then most BC/CC systems. On a perfect super high gloss BC/CC finish you will notice EVERY inperfection. Including the bug marks that got stuck in your paint while it was drying in your driveway

Kent

quote:Originally posted by skyway

Gee, I didn't know that Dulux was still available. Does anybody think Dulux holds up better than Centari. Reason I ask is that:

When my first late old time body man painted my GT back in 1977, he used black Dulux, and mixed a bit of clear into the final spray. That was one deep and shiny finish and, but for 30 years of dings and dangs, still pretty shiny. He also repainted my old Beetle in Dulux (Ceramic Green without any clear added)and that was still holding up when I sold it about 15 years later.

Subsequently, in about 1991 my second late old time body man painted the '64 Cruiser Bordeaux Red in Centari. That paint has essentially gone dull and lifeless.

All of which comes full circle to Ragtop's comments on masks. There is good reason why there are not a lot of surviving old time body men around.

[Allan Songer]

quote:Originally posted by 54-61-62

I'm quite positive that Dulux has not been available since the early 90's.

I'm personally an advocate of Centari. Most my cars get painted with it (though I have used Valspar farm equpment enamel with hardner). It is a great paint for the idiot painting a car in his driveway: its forgiving. Spray it with hardner, slow flash reducer and a final "flood coat" and you'll get a shine thats probally similar to factory paint. Also, single stage enamel is much more easily touched up or rubbed out then BC/CC for a driver.

Believe me, a few scuff marks or stone chips are much less noticable on single stage enamel then most BC/CC systems. On a perfect super high gloss BC/CC finish you will notice EVERY inperfection. Including the bug marks that got stuck in your paint while it was drying in your driveway

Kent

quote:Originally posted by skyway

Gee, I didn't know that Dulux was still available. Does anybody think Dulux holds up better than Centari. Reason I ask is that:

When my first late old time body man painted my GT back in 1977, he used black Dulux, and mixed a bit of clear into the final spray. That was one deep and shiny finish and, but for 30 years of dings and dangs, still pretty shiny. He also repainted my old Beetle in Dulux (Ceramic Green without any clear added)and that was still holding up when I sold it about 15 years later.

Subsequently, in about 1991 my second late old time body man painted the '64 Cruiser Bordeaux Red in Centari. That paint has essentially gone dull and lifeless.

All of which comes full circle to Ragtop's comments on masks. There is good reason why there are not a lot of surviving old time body men around.

But it's so EASY to touch up little nicks in base/clear finishes UNLESS the chip goes through the clear AND the base to the primer or metal--then it's a pain in the neck. Otherwise, a little dab of clear, wait a couple of days, color sand with 1000-1500-2000 and rub it out and VOILA--it's perfect again. I've done this on a couple of dozen little chips over the years with excellent results.

[Allan Songer]

quote:Originally posted by 54-61-62

I'm quite positive that Dulux has not been available since the early 90's.

I'm personally an advocate of Centari. Most my cars get painted with it (though I have used Valspar farm equpment enamel with hardner). It is a great paint for the idiot painting a car in his driveway: its forgiving. Spray it with hardner, slow flash reducer and a final "flood coat" and you'll get a shine thats probally similar to factory paint. Also, single stage enamel is much more easily touched up or rubbed out then BC/CC for a driver.

Believe me, a few scuff marks or stone chips are much less noticable on single stage enamel then most BC/CC systems. On a perfect super high gloss BC/CC finish you will notice EVERY inperfection. Including the bug marks that got stuck in your paint while it was drying in your driveway

Kent

quote:Originally posted by skyway

Gee, I didn't know that Dulux was still available. Does anybody think Dulux holds up better than Centari. Reason I ask is that:

When my first late old time body man painted my GT back in 1977, he used black Dulux, and mixed a bit of clear into the final spray. That was one deep and shiny finish and, but for 30 years of dings and dangs, still pretty shiny. He also repainted my old Beetle in Dulux (Ceramic Green without any clear added)and that was still holding up when I sold it about 15 years later.

Subsequently, in about 1991 my second late old time body man painted the '64 Cruiser Bordeaux Red in Centari. That paint has essentially gone dull and lifeless.

All of which comes full circle to Ragtop's comments on masks. There is good reason why there are not a lot of surviving old time body men around.

But it's so EASY to touch up little nicks in base/clear finishes UNLESS the chip goes through the clear AND the base to the primer or metal--then it's a pain in the neck. Otherwise, a little dab of clear, wait a couple of days, color sand with 1000-1500-2000 and rub it out and VOILA--it's perfect again. I've done this on a couple of dozen little chips over the years with excellent results.

[52hawk]

I started out with dulux,used it for a long time.Then Centari came along.There's no comparison.Centari holds a gloss,it's 10 times tougher than Dulux,and can be repaired easily.[Dulux was about impossible to work over] Skyway,the oxidation on your red 'Cruiser is because of the pigments in RED.It would have dulled out with any single stage type of paint.
Since about 1994 or so,I've used nothing but bc/cc on metallic colors,and nothing but PPG Concept for most solid colors.[made the switch to PPG because the best local auto body supply store switched brands]

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

[52hawk]

I started out with dulux,used it for a long time.Then Centari came along.There's no comparison.Centari holds a gloss,it's 10 times tougher than Dulux,and can be repaired easily.[Dulux was about impossible to work over] Skyway,the oxidation on your red 'Cruiser is because of the pigments in RED.It would have dulled out with any single stage type of paint.
Since about 1994 or so,I've used nothing but bc/cc on metallic colors,and nothing but PPG Concept for most solid colors.[made the switch to PPG because the best local auto body supply store switched brands]

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

[50starlite]

I recently had my 50 Starlight painted it's original color, Bermuda Green (a REALLY dark green), and had it done in base coat/clear coat. There's no doubt in my mind that it never came close to looking this good when it was new. The shine is so deep you would almost think you could reach into it. I don't show my car so it doesn't really matter at what level the paint is, it only has to suit me. My car is a part-time driver and will soon have the normal scratches and small dings that all cars that are driven acquire.

(But it does seems to me unfair to change the rules on our show cars in mid-stream.)

Dick
Mountain Home, AR

http://livingintheozarks.com/studebaker.htm

[50starlite]

I recently had my 50 Starlight painted it's original color, Bermuda Green (a REALLY dark green), and had it done in base coat/clear coat. There's no doubt in my mind that it never came close to looking this good when it was new. The shine is so deep you would almost think you could reach into it. I don't show my car so it doesn't really matter at what level the paint is, it only has to suit me. My car is a part-time driver and will soon have the normal scratches and small dings that all cars that are driven acquire.

(But it does seems to me unfair to change the rules on our show cars in mid-stream.)

Dick
Mountain Home, AR

http://livingintheozarks.com/studebaker.htm