The original photo is sharp enough to read the serial numbers in grease pencil on the window.
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From the archives #99 (1961 Pigggy Back RR transport)
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If nothing else, Dick, that should settle the "all 1961s had silver wheels regardless of primary color" question once and for all (save special fleet orders, perhaps).
Neat old photo. BPWe've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by bob40 View PostDoes the picture reflect sales ratio of Larks to Hawks?
On the train, 15 cars are visible; one Hawk and 14 Larks. That's 6.67% Hawks.
In reality, Studebaker's 1961 automobile production was 5.19% Hawks (3663 Hawks among 70,514 automobiles built). BP
We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by clonelark View PostInteresting also is the single vs dual headlight countGary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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I wouldn't use a single Autorack(that's really what it is, piggy back is a TOFC or trailer on flatcar) to get an overall basis for sales figures, on the premise that there are models in that railroad car missing. It's great for tallying the percentages on the railroad car and for the amount of cars being shipped to wherever the destination is, but the autorack won't account for the whole picture. Anyway, if you notice, aside from the missing wheel covers, so they wouldn't fly loose, there are no convertibles up there. Most automakers wouldn't ship convertibles via autorack, because the ragtop would get torn up by the elements, and they are literally exposed to the elements if the top comes loose. I see they're also still using the open autoracks, they haven't put the protective armor plating on the sides of the car at this point.1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)
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This is the first picture I've seen that Studebaker used a multi-deck rail car. All the others had them loading into box-cars which was really a inefficient way compared to multi-decks. When I worked at a port processor in Long Beach we had to load rail cars which was more complicated than one might think. With say 18 rail cars we would load the upper deck first, middle deck & so on but when they were unloaded at the different destinations, all the cars on each rail car had to be for that specific location due to the railroad dropping off the empty rail car too. Great photo Richard, thanks again for sharing.59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
64 Zip Van
66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
66 Cruiser V-8 auto
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Over on the truck forum, there was a discussion of how pickups were shipped in standard boxcars before the development of the auto rack car. Some have suggested that the pickup beds were strapped on upside down to allow room for the truck behind it to be piggybacked slightly on some sort of ramp or wooden buck. Does that sound correct? Do you have any pictures of trucks being shipped in standard boxcars?Skip Lackie
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Originally posted by Skip Lackie View PostDick-
Over on the truck forum, there was a discussion of how pickups were shipped in standard boxcars before the development of the auto rack car. Some have suggested that the pickup beds were strapped on upside down to allow room for the truck behind it to be piggybacked slightly on some sort of ramp or wooden buck. Does that sound correct? Do you have any pictures of trucks being shipped in standard boxcars?Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review
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Other than the Hawk and the wagon, it looks like the remaining "passengers" are short wheelbase models. I guess if they were careful with the load configuration they could carry more cars. I remember reading that the overall length of the original Chrysler K cars was kept within a certain dimension so that more Reliants and Aries could be packed in to a rail car. Logistics!
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Originally posted by Skip Lackie View PostDick-
Over on the truck forum, there was a discussion of how pickups were shipped in standard boxcars before the development of the auto rack car. Some have suggested that the pickup beds were strapped on upside down to allow room for the truck behind it to be piggybacked slightly on some sort of ramp or wooden buck. Does that sound correct? Do you have any pictures of trucks being shipped in standard boxcars?
Here you are Skip.Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review
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