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  • Curious '59 Hawk on Craig's List

    The ad states that the car is from Australia or South Africa as the Hawks there did not have fins. I have never heard of that. Truth or Fiction? It is a nice looking car.

    http://chico.craigslist.org/cto/2788765840.html

    Not far from me if anyone is interested and wants an inspection. Now that I am retired I have time to do those things :-)

    Pat
    Pat Dilling
    Olivehurst, CA
    Custom '53 Starlight aka STU COOL


    LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611

  • #2
    The serial number will tell you (checking with SNM). Otherwise most likely fiction.

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    • #3
      Surprised it dosn't have right hand controles.
      Klif
      55 Speedster/Street Machine
      63 Avanti R2
      64 Convertible R1

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      • #4
        It is always amazing how sellers choose to invent a twisted legend about the car they own, when the car is plenty good to sell with just a factual description. The incorrect description and BS aside, that's a very nice custom coupe. I'd buy it and drive it with a smile on my face.

        Wish I had a set of those "Original finned Studebaker valve covers", but I had to settle for the Offenhauser aftermarket version.

        jack vines
        PackardV8

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pat Dilling View Post
          The ad states that the car is from Australia or South Africa as the Hawks there did not have fins. I have never heard of that. Truth or Fiction? It is a nice looking car.

          http://chico.craigslist.org/cto/2788765840.html

          Not far from me if anyone is interested and wants an inspection. Now that I am retired I have time to do those things :-)

          Pat
          It sort of sticks in my mind that it was possible to get finless Hawks assembled in some foreign locations. The '60 Hawk I brought back from England was finless, but it was assembled in the US, taken to England by an American, sold there and the man I bought it from took off the tins.
          Last edited by 53k; 01-11-2012, 12:47 PM.
          Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
          '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
            It is always amazing how sellers choose to invent a twisted legend about the car they own, when the car is plenty good to sell with just a factual description.
            In all fairness, this seller may not have invented the story; rather he was given the story when he bought it, and saw no reason to doubt it. Seen it happen many, many times.

            Now, if someone is presented with facts and still refuses to consider them, that's another story. Unfortunately, I've seen that happen many, many times also.
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            • #7
              I believe that there were some Hawks made in or originally sold in Europe that did not have fins. If this was a car made in or originally sold in Australia, it would be right hand drive.
              Gary L.
              Wappinger, NY

              SDC member since 1968
              Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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              • #8
                I thought the Belgium plant assembled Hawks without fins.

                Craig

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 8E45E View Post
                  I thought the Belgium plant assembled Hawks without fins.

                  Craig
                  I actually prefer the Hawks without fins. I don't mind fins on cars but I am not fond of the way the Hawk fins flare out away from the body.
                  \"Ahh, a bear in his natural habitat...a Studebaker!\"

                  51 Land Cruiser (Elsie)
                  Jim Mann
                  Victoria, B.C.
                  Canada

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                  • #10
                    I would be suspicous of this car.... it is listed on Craigslist in 3 different states, by 3 different sellers....
                    There are different pictures and text on each listing, and it IS THE SAME CAR in all 3 listings.
                    The only difference between death and taxes is that death does not grow worse every time Congress convenes. - Will Rogers

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                    • #11
                      Good catch Chris. Did you flag it?
                      Pat Dilling
                      Olivehurst, CA
                      Custom '53 Starlight aka STU COOL


                      LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pat Dilling View Post
                        Good catch Chris. Did you flag it?
                        agreed!!! as with others here, i wouldn't have even looked at it (except here) since there was no price on it...

                        let's call this one "bogus" until proven otherwise.
                        Kerry. SDC Member #A012596W. ENCSDC member.

                        '51 Champion Business Coupe - (Tom's Car). Purchased 11/2012.

                        '40 Champion. sold 10/11. '63 Avanti R-1384. sold 12/10.

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                        • #13
                          Hi,

                          Well, they're on a whole different time frame, but I bet when Matt P. or one of the other Aussies checks in here they'll be able to confirm the fin story.

                          Mike O'Handley
                          Kenmore, Washington
                          hausdok@msn.com
                          Mike O'Handley, Cat Herder Third Class
                          Kenmore, Washington
                          hausdok@msn.com

                          '58 Packard Hawk
                          '05 Subaru Baja Turbo
                          '71 Toyota Crown Coupe
                          '69 Pontiac Firebird
                          (What is it with me and discontinued/orphan cars?)

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                          • #14
                            This is an old tale that has been around for many years. Finned Hawks were assembled in Australia during the 1961 model year only. They all had fins and were much the same to look at as US built cars. Prior to that, we received export RHC Hawks from South Bend (1958-60) that also had fins fitted.

                            Many Hawks had there fins removed in later years which has probably given birth to the rumor. These days, fins are popular once again so restorers are busy re-fitting them!

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