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  • #16
    "I wouldn't have done it in quite that way."
    Jeff DeWitt
    http://carolinastudes.net

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    • #17
      When somebody customizes a car, they are making a form of artistic statement. Whenever you have art, you have art critics; it's that simple.
      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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      • #18
        True, Gord. But the difference is, the owner did not ASK for critiques. When one puts art on display in a gallery it's there for the purpose of others to view it and decide whether that like it or not; just like cars. But if you don't like it you wouldn't tell the artist his work sucks, you just like or don't like and move on to the next. And you certainly wouldn't head onto an art forum and try to start a "Let's all hate this art" fest.

        Car lovers deserve the same consideration as a principle of basic manners.
        Proud NON-CASO

        I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor...it is a symbol of despair. ~ William McKinley

        If it is decreed that I should go down, then let me go down linked with the truth - let me die in the advocacy of what is just and right.- Lincoln

        GOD BLESS AMERICA

        Ephesians 6:10-17
        Romans 15:13
        Deuteronomy 31:6
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        Illegitimi non carborundum

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        • #19
          I agree with the it's theirs and they can do what they want theory 100 percent.

          Or they may have a brain hemorage that just hasen't popped yet.

          In either case refer to first comment.

          Dean.

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          • #20
            Bob, by putting the car up for sale, he is inviting criticism. The art in most private art galleries is for sale, too. As long as the criticism does not become abuse, no harm, no foul.
            Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gordr View Post
              Bob, by putting the car up for sale, he is inviting criticism. The art in most private art galleries is for sale, too. As long as the criticism does not become abuse, no harm, no foul.
              i took a lot of criticism (and few nasty p.m.s and e-mails), when i put my avanti, with the corvette drivetrain and racing seats, up for sale last year. after the initial hurt wore off from the nastygrams, i took it as a learning experience.

              as rick nelson sang: "... you can't please everyone, so you gotta please yourself..."
              Kerry. SDC Member #A012596W. ENCSDC member.

              '51 Champion Business Coupe - (Tom's Car). Purchased 11/2012.

              '40 Champion. sold 10/11. '63 Avanti R-1384. sold 12/10.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bob Andrews View Post
                Car lovers deserve the same consideration as a principle of basic manners.
                This pretty much sums it up. If I have advertised my ride for sale and you don't like it then don't buy it, if you like it then buy it. If you like it and want to criticise it on a public forum in a positive manner then go for it...if you want to negatively criticise it then do it in a manner as if you were talking to the owner face to face, any other way is simply weak and rude. For example, in the case of this Lark, you would never say to the owner "What the **** were you thinking when you painted this thing?" Using diplomacy and saying something like " What inspired you to select this paint scheme?" is not only much more polite, but also does not make the owner feel bad about the car he owns. Just because it is for sale does not give one licence to be rude. This has been discussed a number of times on this forum, and I believe we need to constantly remind ourselves of maintaining manners...its not only what we have to say, but how we say it. Thanks Bob A for reminding us. Junior.
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                1954 C5 Hamilton car.

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                • #23
                  Right on Junior,and as Bob Andrews said ! it's to bad that some people can't be TAUGHT but they sure can LEARN = self inflicted !!!
                  Originally posted by junior View Post
                  This pretty much sums it up. If I have advertised my ride for sale and you don't like it then don't buy it, if you like it then buy it. If you like it and want to criticise it on a public forum in a positive manner then go for it...if you want to negatively criticise it then do it in a manner as if you were talking to the owner face to face, any other way is simply weak and rude. For example, in the case of this Lark, you would never say to the owner "What the **** were you thinking when you painted this thing?" Using diplomacy and saying something like " What inspired you to select this paint scheme?" is not only much more polite, but also does not make the owner feel bad about the car he owns. Just because it is for sale does not give one licence to be rude. This has been discussed a number of times on this forum, and I believe we need to constantly remind ourselves of maintaining manners...its not only what we have to say, but how we say it. Thanks Bob A for reminding us. Junior.
                  Joseph R. Zeiger

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                  • #24
                    I don't agree with StudeRich, however yall do realize, that if we drive Studebakers, to begin with, we have to have tough skin. I am laughing out loud to myself right now, just thinking about some of the things that have been said about my Studebakers, as well as to me, over the years.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 63t-cab View Post
                      Right on Junior,and as Bob Andrews said ! it's to bad that some people can't be TAUGHT but they sure can LEARN = self inflicted !!!
                      "ignorance can be changed, but stupid is forever"...

                      i was "ignorant" about studes when i bought my 1st one. but was taught on this forum and other places and people, and i learned much of what i've been taught...

                      "that's all i have to say about that!"
                      Kerry. SDC Member #A012596W. ENCSDC member.

                      '51 Champion Business Coupe - (Tom's Car). Purchased 11/2012.

                      '40 Champion. sold 10/11. '63 Avanti R-1384. sold 12/10.

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                      • #26
                        OK it is not my cup of tea either, but it is his car. Would I buy it? Probably not. It could be a good little around town fun car. I am so weird, I like Stude 6's. As far as weird paint jobs, I am thinking about painting a '62 Champ I have John Deere green with John Deere yellow wheels. Why? I grew up with JDs on the dairy and I was even a Deere dealer for a while. Not original color, but I'll bet Stude or a dealer would have done that for say a fleet order. And some dealers would have done it to sell just one truck. And I am in this hobby for the fun of it, obviously not to make money!! One look at my bank account will prove that! Now my GT is getting the full original treatment....all it takes is money!

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                        • #27
                          Jim, I can kinda picture the Champ dressed out like that.say with black wall bias type tires stock hub caps and some kind of real rugged rear bumper.oops should I have said "hub caps" ? <G>
                          Originally posted by Jim Beard View Post
                          OK it is not my cup of tea either, but it is his car. Would I buy it? Probably not. It could be a good little around town fun car. I am so weird, I like Stude 6's. As far as weird paint jobs, I am thinking about painting a '62 Champ I have John Deere green with John Deere yellow wheels. Why? I grew up with JDs on the dairy and I was even a Deere dealer for a while. Not original color, but I'll bet Stude or a dealer would have done that for say a fleet order. And some dealers would have done it to sell just one truck. And I am in this hobby for the fun of it, obviously not to make money!! One look at my bank account will prove that! Now my GT is getting the full original treatment....all it takes is money!
                          Joseph R. Zeiger

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by junior View Post
                            This pretty much sums it up. If I have advertised my ride for sale and you don't like it then don't buy it, if you like it then buy it.
                            It is a two-way street! Paint color is something easily changed, and if a car similar to this came to me, no question I'd change it back to a stock color as soon as possible after it became mine. What I don't want to hear is the previous owner coming up to me at a car show a year or two later asking me , "What the h*ll did you do THAT for?!!" Once a vehicle has left one's posession and becomes someone else's, the previous owner has no right to criticize the subsequent buyer for changing something on what he may think is still "his" car. And yes, I have heard stories of this happening from time to time.

                            Craig
                            Last edited by 8E45E; 12-04-2011, 05:33 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 8E45E View Post
                              It is a two-way street! Paint color is something easily changed, and if a car similar to this came to me, no question I'd change it back to a stock color as soon as possible after it became mine. What I don't want to hear is the previous owner coming up to me at a car show a year or two later asking me , "What the h*ll did you do THAT for?!!" Once a vehicle has left one's posession and becomes someone else's, the previous owner has no right to criticize the subsequent buyer for changing something on what he may think is still "his" car. And yes, I have heard stories of this happening from time to time.

                              Craig
                              You mean like the time I bought a rust-free Dastun 510 2dr, cut a huge hole in the firewall/floor and attempted to build a sub-frame and install a 350SBC with 14" of set-back to make it 'mid-engine' and then scrapped it?...oh ya the PO was a little ticked at me (lol) That's fair game. When you own it, you own it, do what pleases you. Regards, Junior.
                              sigpic
                              1954 C5 Hamilton car.

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                              • #30
                                Wow - the PC cops are out tonight, eh? LOL!!!
                                No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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