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  • The Halibrand Hunter

    My friend Greg Cone, very long time Avanti enthusiast, owner of three, and owner of the DuoCento engine has hunted for Halibrand magnesium wheels, a dealer option on Studebakers, for a very long time. Recently he found and bought his second set which is such an interesting story that I asked Greg if I could post it.
    The seller, incidentally, is a Forum member, go-studebaker, who air mailed the wheels, spinners and lug nuts to Greg.
    This is Greg's report as he sent it to me:

    "The first set I found in 1969 or so. I had been advertising for a set while in Viet Nam. Didn't have a car to put them on, but I knew I would someday (should the current duty station work out). I ran across some, but a typical response was " you don't want them. They are ugly, hard to keep, hard to balance, won't hold air, they corrode, get brittle, might catch fire, and no I won't sell any of my three sets".
    I was also dealing with the Stu-V guys Chris Banke and Dave Livesay. I mentioned my desire to find the wheels and I was pleased to learn that they could supply me with four wheels , but less the spinners and lugnuts. And oh by the way, they were said to have been part of the Studebaker Bonneville Team effort. Of course, they were.
    Any and all Halibrands had certainly been under Andy Granatelli's bed . I didn't care how much sky came with them, I bought.


    Funny thing is, they arrived with Allstate Bonneville tires (still in my storage). I called Halibrand and they supplied a set of spinners. That is why they have the Torrance address.

    I had put the first set on my restored R5054 black Avanti. Then it stood idle for a long time. Meanwhile I got the urge to pull the maroon R2724 out of storage. Getting it up and running, so I pulled the wheels off the black one to use on the madeover maroon car. In my opinion once you've had a set of Halibrands on one of these cars, nothing else will do. Might as well have a set of Keystones.
    Time to look for another set.

    Set no. 2.....
    Instead of advertising , I just started asking around and made sure they knew I was serious. More than one contact said that "no, don't know of any but I'm looking for a set too".
    A call to Dave Thibeault , the old friend of Studebakerers, resulted in a return call and an email contact. In England.
    Greg Diffen, who I didn't know, might have a set to sell. I gave him a try.
    Yes, he had some and might let them go. They had a history that he shared with me. Here we go, more buying sky.
    A Mr. Bert Needham, Australian Studebaker dealer, was known for his performance work with South Bend cars. One of his race cars kept breaking steel wheels, so he ordered a set of Halibrands. The first set, maybe the only set to make it to Australia.
    These wheels were fitted to a road race R4 Lark. It did well especially at the Bathurst course.
    Diffen was able to buy these wheels. Diffen then made a move to England I think ten years ago.
    The Halibrands remained in storage until I bought them. The low mileage and years of careful storage must account for their pristine condition. They came complete with lug nuts and spinners. Somewhere along the way, the spinners have been modified with inserts
    (horn buttons I'm told), so there's no way of knowing the address cast into them.
    Now I can return the Bonneville wheels to the black one since it has a few salt car upgrades and this new set will find their way to R2724. And with this latest acquisition of five wheels, there's finally a spare wheel between the two cars. I've been sweating for a long time about that. And that's one more I can pick up and hug."
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    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
    '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

  • #2
    Very cool! I love the Halibrands that Studebaker used.

    I wonder if I should mention that I just agreed to purchase a set of reproduction spinners, just like the ones in this photo..

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    • #3
      I like 'em, but luckily I don't have any legit original Studes. That leaves me free to go with those beautiful 'kidney bean' copies (in various finish choices) or possibly the Halibrand repops Jon Meyer is trying to do (if he finally gets enough pre-orders).
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      • #4
        This Studebaker might have won quite a few races if it wasn't flat-towing that Mini Cooper behind it...



        Those Minis might have been small but they were deadly in the corners.

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        • #5
          That insert on the spinner looks to be a 1950 truck horn button.
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          • #6
            That shot's FANTASTIC! I do believe that Stude is haulin' around the course quite well!

            Any chance for a larger resolution (bigger) photo? That thing is great!

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            • #7
              Did Halibrand make any true knockoff wheels for Studebaker ?
              Klif
              55 Speedster/Street Machine
              63 Avanti R2
              64 Convertible R1

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              • #8
                Did Halibrand make any true knockoff wheels for Studebaker ? Klif
                Not that I've ever seen or heard tell of.

                FWIW, Halibrand will make you a reproduction aluminum wheel in any size you want. I had them make a set of 16" X 8" for my Hawk project.
                http://www.halibrand.com/index_frames.htm

                jack vines
                Last edited by PackardV8; 08-25-2011, 06:08 PM.
                PackardV8

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                • #9
                  Oh Jack!
                  Did they make them "one off" for you? or are they available???
                  Do they make these 16" in 6",7" & 9" also????
                  Who did you deal with?
                  Please send me pictures. I have always wanted Halibrands for my C/K, wanted 16" for the rear and 15" for the front.
                  Please expand on this post.
                  Brian
                  And on another topic, Allan Barth tells me you have someone that does you engine rebuilds. We are ready to have Sandi's 289 rebuilt for her 61 Hawk.
                  Please PM me.
                  Thanks
                  Brian Woods
                  woodysrods@shaw.ca
                  1946 M Series (Shop Truck)

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                  • #10
                    When it comes to the set of Halibrand Wheels which were obtained from
                    Greg Diffen , the story of them is 100% correct that they were originally
                    ordered by Sydney , Australia , Studebaker Dealer , Needham's Motors .
                    The Proprietor , Bert Needham , special ordered this set of wheels into
                    Australia back in 1963/64 and from what I know , he used to swap them
                    around on three (3) different Studebakers that he owned . The last car
                    that he had them fitted to was the R4 Commander which is shown racing
                    earlier on in this thread .

                    For more pictures of Studebakers Racing at Bathurst NSW west of Sydney
                    back in the 1960's , fire up your computer to www.studebakercarclubnsw.com
                    and you will be able to surf probably the best Studebaker website in Australia.

                    Back to the Halibrand magnesium wheels , Bert liked everything about them
                    except for the three eared spinners . So he took them off the wheels , put
                    them in a lathe , and machined them to get the writing off them and insert
                    the Studebaker 'horn buttons' to give them the look that he thought that they
                    should have had from the 'factory ' . And I think we can say , he did a good job.

                    Bert passed away in 1980 at the age of 73 . He had been involved with Sales
                    and Service of Studebaker Motor Vehicles since 1924 . He was a Studebaker
                    Master Mechanic and a keen racing enthusiast . I had the priviledge of him
                    letting me drive his R4 Commander whilst he was passenger and I can tell you
                    that the car is a 'weapon' . The car still exists in Australia in the collection
                    of Kevin Bell of Western Australia ( 3,000 miles from me ) and has just 33,000
                    original miles on it . It is fitted with the Super Lark High Performance Package
                    including the 12:1 comp R4 engine with 4 speed manual . The car still wears
                    its original 'Sealight Green ' paint with a biege interior , RHD . A rare car !!!

                    I hope the new owner of the wheels appreciates not only the look of them
                    but also the history behind them . Thanks to Greg Diffen for caring for them !

                    CRUISER

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                    • #11
                      If my memory serves me, there was a set of these on eBay this spring. Someone on the Forum alerted everyone and I read the post just minutes after they were listed with a high "buy it now" price but the were gone as fast as they were listed.
                      Brian
                      Brian Woods
                      woodysrods@shaw.ca
                      1946 M Series (Shop Truck)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cruiser View Post
                        For more pictures of Studebakers Racing at Bathurst NSW west of Sydney
                        back in the 1960's , fire up your computer to www.studebakercarclubnsw.com
                        Neat site, but I couldn't find any of the racing pictures you mention. Can you give us a direct link?
                        Proud NON-CASO

                        I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor...it is a symbol of despair. ~ William McKinley

                        If it is decreed that I should go down, then let me go down linked with the truth - let me die in the advocacy of what is just and right.- Lincoln

                        GOD BLESS AMERICA

                        Ephesians 6:10-17
                        Romans 15:13
                        Deuteronomy 31:6
                        Proverbs 28:1

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                        • #13


                          Originally posted by Bob Andrews View Post
                          Neat site, but I couldn't find any of the racing pictures you mention. Can you give us a direct link?

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                          • #14
                            BOB ,
                            The 'Racing' photographs ARE on the Website . I guess you just didn't
                            "click" on enough of the Headings . If you 'pop' STUDEBAKER HERITAGE on
                            the left hand side of the main page , it will turn up a group of 'Headings' of
                            which the 'Racing' one I believe is the fourth one down . Just 'click' on it
                            and scroll down past some Racing info and you will get to some full page
                            pictures . When you find 'em , hope you like 'em . Thanks for the follow up !

                            CRUISER

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                            • #15
                              Thank you, I guess I didn't look far enough. LOVE the pictures, especially of the Stude leading a whole pack of (to me) nondescript little cars

                              I particularly like the arrows on the front bumper instructing the safety crew which end needs to be down in the event of a rollover<GG>
                              Proud NON-CASO

                              I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor...it is a symbol of despair. ~ William McKinley

                              If it is decreed that I should go down, then let me go down linked with the truth - let me die in the advocacy of what is just and right.- Lincoln

                              GOD BLESS AMERICA

                              Ephesians 6:10-17
                              Romans 15:13
                              Deuteronomy 31:6
                              Proverbs 28:1

                              Illegitimi non carborundum

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