400 pontiac in a stude?

[PackardV8]

WOW, proving once again, we have some serious old gearheads here! For coming up with what I considered the biggest outside, smallest inside '50s V8 engine , first prize goes to klifton1 for "small Dodge hemi." Because it had only 241"-315" and had those huge, wide hemi heads, like the Stude, with displacement of 224"-304.5", they both take up a yard of space outside for a few inches of displacement inside.

Dan White guessed International V8. Their V8 is huge outside for a 304" but IH did offer it in much larger displacements.

52Hawk guessed Y-block Ford. For its 239"-312" size, it was average for the '50s, big by modern 302" standards. I am not aware of anything which will put 347" into a smaller physical space than that SBF.

thnx, jv

PackardV8

[Mike Van Veghten]

Packebaker quote -

quote:The overall design of the Pontiac engine is very similar to that of the Studebaker,

Well...that's true. But aren't most all of'em the same design?
Let me count the ways...
1. Heads, most all have'em
2. Crank shafts, most all have'em
3. Blocks, again....
4. Cams, required for all
5. etc., etc.

Hell...I had a guy tell me the other day my Stude bare block looked "just" like a 392 hemi block! A lot of similarites there! What the seperate valley cover?

Mike

[PackardV8]

Too true, Mike. But first, in Packardbaker's defense, we can guess he meant nothing more than both the Stude and the Poncho are similar size wedge-head V8s. Where one will fit, so will the other. Most everything else is different because the Poncho is second-generation GM.

To address your statement, engines from the same era tend to have similar design features. Guys who don't work on too many engines see a '50s V8 with a valley cover, or the pushrod holes in the block or the water pump manifold, or the siamesed center exhaust ports and say "looks just like a . . ."





PackardV8

[imported_n/a]

Well, here is how the Pontiac is much like the Stude: distributor at the back of the block, sheet-metal valley cover underneath a separate intake manifold, cast-aluminum timing cover, rocker cover gaskets are very close in shape. It would be easy to mistake one for the other at first glance. The clue is the rocker cover hold-down studs/nuts though the top of the cover , and the bolt-on water manifold on Studebaker.

[stude freak]

Well i called Stude53 tonight and i m going down there saturday probably .So next week i may have a 54 coupe in my shop.He quoted me a price and i asked if he took cash.So maybe in the not so near future we will see how the 400 poncho fits.The weird thing was i saw him and his dad about 3 weeks ago at the Tupelo car museum and didnt know it was him.His dad had the sharp black 50 stude pickup i told yall about in another post.From now on im going to wear a name tag with stude freak on it so if any you guys see me walk up and introduce yourself.I think i will know Mr.Biggs,I seen his pics enought on here.And hes about my size n just almost as homely as me .lol[B)]no offense meant Bob just stating a fact