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  • Assault and Battery "Rusty"

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    "Studes" to you all!
    I read an article in the Turning Wheels [Co-Operator],about [12] twelve or [18] eighteen months ago. The author of the article told of using a battery charger to remove "RUSTY" from Studebaker parts!
    If you read this article; could you tell me what volume it was in?
    I am interested in re-reading the article.
    If you have used this process to remove rust; would you share your experience following this procedure?
    One thing I remember not being clear was; what type of battery charger to use; for example:what amperage,fast charge, slow charge,
    electronic, or the old standards with manual shut off. I need a new charger any way so I may as well get one that is best too use on old "RUSTY".
    Any information you would be willing to share with me would be much appreciated.
    Don't forget to shut the door before you go!
    Commander One 54

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    I've been using this system sporadically. It works GREAT! I used a plastic 50 gallon drum that I got for free from a local dairy supply place.
    As to the charger - bigger is better. The more amps you can crank thru the solution, the faster it'll clean an item up. Of course, the size of the item being cleaned also determines how fast it'll get cleansed. That's where more amperage comes in.
    I found a 24volt battery charger for a industrial strength floor polisher at a sawp meet and paid a whole 5 bucks for it. Baby even has a timer and an amp gage on it. Cranks some significant amps althought I can't recall the rating right now.
    Be advised that you don't want the charger's clamps to be immersed in the sloution themselves - they'll be gone in no time at all![xx(] I used stainless steel cable to connect the anode to the positive cable (I used old stainless hubcaps as the anodes themselves) and I've constructed a metal channel with hooks that straddle the tank. I hang the part to be cleaned from one of the hooks so that the part hangs into the solution in the tank. Then the negative cable is attached to the channel.

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    1953 Commander coupe
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    • #3
      Mr. Biggs what is the solution you use in the tank? Should I use the full 200 amps on my charger or the (slow) charge 40 amp?

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      • #4
        FYI: The South Georgia Chapter has a number of links to pages that cover the process and equipment on their web site at:



        BShaw,Webmaster

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        • #5
          Thank you Mr. B shaw.

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          • #6
            Thanks Bob. I looked at some of those links on their page. About half of them weren't any good (bad link). The others mention the possibility of using lye as an agent in the tank. I wouldn't do that myself![xx(]

            I used one teaspoon of washing soda per gallon of water. I don't think I'd use the 200 amp setting as I suspect it could cause problems if the part and the anode accidentally touched. Although, probably it would just trip the circuit breaker in the charger.[xx(]

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            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
            1960 Larkvertible V8
            1958 Provincial wagon
            1953 Commander coupe
            1957 President 2-dr
            1955 President State
            1951 Champion Biz cpe
            1963 Daytona project FS
            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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            • #7
              I wrote the piece in TW, and I'll try and help. A small 10 Amp charger will work fine in a small tank. The bigger the metal anodes the faster it'll work and the more current you'll need. If you're using a kids wading pool to do fenders and the like, you'll need a bigger charger. Any other questions, just ask.

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              63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
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              • #8
                I've also used this method of rust removal after reading about it in TW, I agree, the bigger the better as far as the charger goes. The article appeared in the first issue of Turning Wheels I ever saw (June 2005, page 32 ), It was given to me by the widow of the Stude owner's car I bought, and thus how I found the SDC.

                JDP, great article!!

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                • #9
                  "The bigger the better" I know of a guy that uses a welder instead of a battery charger. Only down side, you could die.

                  Studebaker On The Net http://stude.com
                  64 R2 4 speed Challenger
                  63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
                  63 Avanti
                  54 3R Pickup

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                  • #10
                    Yikes! And I was wondering what was going through the first person's mind when he got the bright idea to hook up a battery charger to a piece of metal in a tub of water and plug it in. Now a welder?

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                    • #11
                      JDP writes: "I know of a guy that uses a welder instead of a battery charger."

                      That's Tim "the tool man" Taylor, right?[]

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                      1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                      1960 Larkvertible V8
                      1958 Provincial wagon
                      1953 Commander coupe
                      1957 President 2-dr
                      1955 President State
                      1951 Champion Biz cpe
                      1963 Daytona project FS
                      No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                      • #12
                        With the battery charger, the worst that can happen is you feel a "tingle" when you reach in the tank withn the power on, not so with a 70 volt DC welder.

                        Studebaker On The Net http://stude.com
                        64 R2 4 speed Challenger
                        63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
                        63 Avanti
                        54 3R Pickup

                        JDP Maryland

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for all the help guys.Just one question? Biggs what is washing soda?

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                          • #14
                            It's sodium carbonate, Arm and Hammer washing soda at the supermarket.

                            Studebaker On The Net http://stude.com
                            64 R2 4 speed Challenger
                            63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
                            63 Avanti
                            54 3R Pickup

                            JDP Maryland

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                            • #15
                              You can get it at stores that sell swimming pool chemicals. Just ask for a "pH increaser" and make sure the ingredient list says sodium carbonate (NOT bicarbonate or bisulfide). I got mine, "pH Up", at the local Fleet Farm. I think it was around $9.99 for a 5-pound pail. I use a 10-amp charger and a Tidy Cats litter plastic pail for small stuff as it has a nifty hinged lid built-in. I've used both re-bar iron rods and a stainless steel pickle server for anodes. Seemed to work best spacing four iron rods vertically around the perimeter, connected together with a 12-ga copper wire. Haven't done but a couple of small things but did the job on a 39 Champion trunk hinge that I probably would have tossed.

                              JDP: If you still have the word processing file from your TW article, send it to me and I'll "file" it in the Tech Tips section of the website.

                              BShaw,Webmaster

                              60 Hawk. 49 2R5, 39 Champion
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                              Rush City, Minnesota
                              1960 Hawk - www.northstarstudebakers.com
                              "The farther I go, the behinder I get."

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