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  • Tranny trouble

    Ive been thinking about getting the Hawk out soon,its almost spring here in Nova Scotia,only around -15 out right now(G)
    But I was just remembering last summer when driving the car(259/Flight-o-matic) that it seems to shift normally under normal driving conditions,but when you really get on it,like starting it in 1st then slaming it into drive while keeping pedal towards floorboard,there is a definite "lag" or it feels like the transmission slips for a second.
    This is really playing hell with my burn outs.
    Should I
    1.Just drive it like a sensible person (not to likely)
    2.Drop the pan and adjust the bands as per shop manual
    3.Take the whole unit out and have it re-built.
    The last option,though more costly,seems like it may be the right one because Im concerned that the unit is getting weak and may just give up the ghost entirely in the middel of driving season(a horrible thought)
    Now to another unrelated horrible thought,this little task I have ahead of me in a few minutes.
    My step-daugters hubby went to Toronto about a month ago and left his precious Dodge Shadow(or something of that nature) sitting,with the implicit instructions to his wife(my step daughter,whom Im very fond of) to start the POS,er,car regularly.
    Well,yesterday it wouldn't start.
    Its been -20 every day for at least a week here so that wasn't to suprising,even though the battery is only a year old.
    So yesterday,with my frozen and bandaged hands,managed to get the battery out of the beast(what an absolute piece of crap to work on),it was a far worse job than it sounds due to the insane design of the battery holder.
    As I set the battery in the back of my Sorento for its trip to the garage(I have only a little motorcycle battery charger here),I noticed a definite bulge in the side of it.Oh Oh,thats not good,I thought but I took it to the garage and set it on the floor where my mechanic freind was busy working under a car.
    "Can you put a charge on this" says I
    "Sure" says he,then he took a casual glance and said"are you kidding,thats a block of ice"
    "Is it f&*ked" says I
    "Sure is " says he.
    So last night step-daughter ,feeling very guilty because she negleted to start hubbys car as often as she should have,arrived home with a brand new Energizer.
    My lovely task is to install it and get the beast running,and like I say its bloody cold out.But as hubbbys returning from Toronto tommorow and needs his car I have no choice.
    So all you guys who live in sensible areas where it dosen't get cold just count your lucky stars these things never happen to you.
    Did I mention I like working on cheap little *** built Dodges about as much as having my molars yanked, without the anthcetic?

  • #2
    Robert - minus twenty - I can't fathom doing ANYTHING besides huddling next to the furnace outlet! And you with your freeze-dried digits.
    Couldn't hubby put the battery in, or is it a manuver of saving face for the step-daughter?
    As to your tranny, I'd call the auto tranny tech guy for SDC. He's very easy to talk to and he's a whiz at the FOM trannies. (he knows very little about the earlier Stude automatics)
    Just be mindful of the hour you call him. He still works a regular job at some school district's bus garage, but he's off on the weekends.
    I visited with him a bit at the LA Winter meet. Cool guy.

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    1953 Commander coupe
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    • #3
      Yea,it was kind of a "I owe you a big one girls" thing,I just wanted to do it ,and I got the thing in, bought some new bolts and made a home made but much better than stock battery holder.
      Turned the key and the little sucker fired right up just like,well,like a Dodge Shadow(G)
      Thanks for the advice on my tranny,I will call the gentleman you mention at a reasonable hour.

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      • #4
        IIRC, a "Shadow" is not "*** built." I certainly feel for you with the cold. I have done my share of below zero F (are you using F or C?) car repairs. Now, all of my vehicles are in heated garges.
        Gary L.
        Wappinger, NY

        SDC member since 1968
        Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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        • #5
          Keep in mind -15 C (Canadian) is +5 US <G>.

          1960 Lark Convertible
          Dan Peterson
          Montpelier, VT
          1960 Lark V-8 Convertible
          1960 Lark V-8 Convertible (parts car)

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          • #6
            Dan, after living in CA for 24 years, anything below 50+ F is too damned cold

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            1955 President State
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            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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            • #7
              Gary,your probaly right about that(as usual) but its got a Mistibishi engine and "sounds" Japanese.
              On second thought,I don't know if any of the overseas companys would build such a "cheap" feeling car.
              Everything about it from the door handels to the wiper blades look as if whoever designed them would not spend 50 cents if 25 might do,
              Ive driven this thing(very short distances) and it may be OK for around town,but feels totaly unsafe at highway speeds.
              I encouraged Rauly(the owner) to get rid of it when he hit the deer last year,but no,he wanted it fixed.
              A VW Golf seems like a Bently in comparison.

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              • #8
                Yea,I was talking celcius temps,but that thars still pretty dang cold,even in these parts.
                We have had a very mild winter as winters go here in Nova Scotia with few big storms(damn it!),but when February hit it turned cold and stayed that way.
                Oh well,only a couple more months and the Parka and mukluccs will be coming off and Ill be gettting on the Harley and really freezing(G)

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                • #9
                  Robert,
                  You'd best be watching those fingers, once frozen they freeze easier the second time. We who live in the cold places should keep things like that in mind.
                  From your description of your driving habits with the Hawk it is obvious that you haven't read your latest TW. Sounds like it might be time for the rebuild. If you could find one, it might be better to have a heavy duty Flighto rebuilt and then switch them. The heavy duty would get you water cooling capablities and some other more sturdy parts.

                  Tim K.
                  '64 R2 GT Hawk
                  Tim K.
                  \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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                  • #10
                    re: the VW Golf comment, have you driven one of the A4 chassis Golfs? The darn thing really does feel like a Bentley, all the controls feel great and the car itself feels like it was carved out of a block of granite. That is probably why it weighs more than my '62 Lark...

                    Can't help you with your transmixer problem though, I fear automatics... a band adjustment is about as far as I will venture into one of those things. I would certainly try that and maybe drain the TC as well while you're at it, by all reports the FOM is a pretty stout unit. Might want to adjust the throttle pressure linkage (and the throttle bellcrank as well) per the shop manual, can't hurt and the whole exercise will cost you a case of ATF.

                    When you do the band adjustment, you ought to be able to find the info online, the special spacer you need for one band is 1/4" thick, and I think Motor's or some other contemporary repair manual published the torque specs so you can replace the special overrunning band adjustment tools with a regular torque wrench (or educated fingers) so you don't really need all the special stuff listed in the shop manual.

                    nate

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                    • #11
                      -15 degrees fahrenheit or celsius is pretty darn cold!!

                      Thank goodness the Anglos exiled us from Acadie' (Nova Scotia) I don't think I've ever seen -15 degrees fahrenheit or celsius!!

                      Laisez le bon temps roulez avec un Studebaker
                      Laisez le bon temps roulez avec un Studebaker

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                      • #12
                        I saw our thermometer go to -25 F one night, as a kid in Michigan. That was enough for me.[V]

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                        1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                        1960 Larkvertible V8
                        1958 Provincial wagon
                        1953 Commander coupe
                        1957 President 2-dr
                        1955 President State
                        1951 Champion Biz cpe
                        1963 Daytona project FS
                        No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                        • #13
                          quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

                          I saw our thermometer go to -25 F one night, as a kid in Michigan. That was enough for me.[V]

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                          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                          1960 Larkvertible V8
                          1958 Provincial wagon
                          1953 Commander coupe
                          1957 President 2-dr
                          1955 President State
                          1951 Champion Biz cpe
                          1963 Daytona project FS
                          Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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                          • #14
                            They're expecting a high of 73 degrees (F) today and a low of mid 50's. I slept with the air conditioner on last night

                            Laisez le bon temps roulez avec un Studebaker
                            Laisez le bon temps roulez avec un Studebaker

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                            • #15
                              mjeansonne,

                              I just worry about how you guys are gonna fare in the next hurricane season. Ya hafta wonder how many nice Studes were lost to that tragedy. Not to mention parts donors, parts & what have you![xx(]

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                              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                              1960 Larkvertible V8
                              1958 Provincial wagon
                              1953 Commander coupe
                              1957 President 2-dr
                              1955 President State
                              1951 Champion Biz cpe
                              1963 Daytona project FS
                              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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