R1 Hawk out of hibernation in Ohio

[billmdonn]

R1 Hawk in Ohio. Looks pretty good. Is this a "package car"???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Studebaker-Grand-Turismo-Hawk_W0QQitemZ300394064278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item45f0e1a996

[sals54]

No, its not a package car. If so, it would at least have the power shift trans which would put the shifter on the floor. This one has the heavy duty flight o matic. Still a great car in its own right. A rather high starting bid, but well worth that price if its a solid and sound car.

sals54

[candbstudebakers]

Now it has some extra holes in the hood that are not stock.

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA
canbstudebakers-

[barnlark]

I'm close enough to look at it, if anyone far away is really interested. The weather is definitely not the same as in those pictures, though!

[Bill Pressler]

quote:Originally posted by barnlark

I'm close enough to look at it, if anyone far away is really interested. The weather is definitely not the same as in those pictures, though!

Dave, that car was at Summit. It is a beautiful car, but I'm surprised the guy didn't include a photo of the damage. I think you had a photo of the damage in your Summit link, but haven't checked yet. I seem to remember seeing a picture, and definitely remember seeing the damage in person to the lower RR quarter.

UPDATE: HERE IS A LINK TO PHOTOS OF THE CAR INCLUDING THE DAMAGED AREA:

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32546&SearchTerms=Summit,Racing

I remember it being a very nice, original-looking car. Not to get beat up about this, but why on earth would the guy drill holes in the hood to put a hood ornament on? The '63's never had one and every other thing about the car looks so original and authentic. I know when it's your car you can do whatever you want but, sheesh, now there's a nice hood with two holes in it.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 (sold new by Cordell Motors, Moorhead, MN)
'64 Daytona Hardtop (sold new by Carl E. Filer Co., Greenville, PA)

[The Poopmaster]

That looks like a nice car and only 2 holes. That should not hinder any body that wants a nice car. I would probably leave it as is but then again I have been known to drive around with a Studebaker truck full of human waste. Perk and poop

[stude62]

If you scroll down to the bottom of the listing, the damaged area is showing in a couple of good pictures.

Stu K


'63 Lark Regal, "Miss Rose"

[RareBird]

I remember looking at it @ summit also. I too wondered why he didn't steam the engine and do some prep work before he put it up for sale. Wanted 18k for it - wonder how high it will go on EBAY.



Packardbakerly,
J.D.

[bams50]

I do like the car... but if he wants 18K it's back into the garage for the old girl[|)]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[bams50]

Here's a note I got from Bob Palma on this car; pretty interesting stuff:

Bob: Here's a curiosity on that nice, black 1963 R1 Hawk on e-bay; the one in upstate Ohio. All the records, including a direct copy of the ORIGINAL production order in cousin George Krem's possession (he just checked when I asked) indicate the car was built as a 4-speed!

Yep! Everything else is legit for 63V19091, but unless Studebaker made a direct mistake on the Production Order, it was built as a 4-speed.

I've seen minor items wrong on an orignal PO, but never the entire transmission.

So it would be intersting to look the car over real well and see if it was converted to a column automatic...and if not, it is "for sure" a real piece of documented history!

Cheers. Bob

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[bams50]

I see it got the opening bid of $6800 (reserve not met) with 7 days left. It will be interesting to see how high it goes. Does the interesting info from BP above mean anything real to the value one way or another? I guess most bidders wouldn't know about it, but if they did, I wonder if it would make any difference...

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[G T Joe]

I also saw that car at Summit and I think that maybe the transmission was changed, when I was looking at the car there was a lot of little things that turned me off about the car, I know at the time he was asking 18k I think that 6k would be a fair price especially if the transmissin has been changed, and all the little things that can nickel and dime you to death.

Joseph Kastellec