Halibrands/Dealer Option

[Studebaker Wheel]

Great photo Mr Quinn. Location where it was taken? Proving grounds?

I am really not sure. It does not appear to be at the Proving Ground club house (used by Egbert for his residence). It is definitely a factory photo however since it has the negative number stamped on the reverse side.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

[go-studebaker]

Hi guys,
I do have a set of 5 here in the UK that took Studebaker to Third place in class at Bathurst 1000 mile road race in 1967. Bert Needham ordered them as he kept cracking steel wheels.

I always flick between wanting to sell them and not as I would like to use them eventually. Sets of 5 are really unusual.

My email current address is yodiffman@yahoo.com

My old work one finished 6 months ago that Ian Mackellar mentioned. Yes you would need a pile of cash for them, they are too rare and desirable.

egards
Greg

Greg Diffen
Australian Stude nut living in Warwick, United Kingdom

1933 St Regis Brougham Model 56 Dutch delivered
1937 Dicator sedan. Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Packard Seven Passenger monster UK delivered
1939 Commander Sedan Australian Body by TJ Richards
1939 Commander Swiss Cabriolet by Lagenthal
1961 Hawk
1963 Daytona Hardtop
1988 Avanti Convertible

[StudeMichael]

That might be Egbert's car.

[mbstude]

quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

That might be Egbert's car.

I was thinking the same thing. Note the license plate.

[R2Andrea]

The pre-package SuperHawk I believe Jimes Bell is refering to is 63V23972. It was shipped to Los Angeles on 2-12-63 with no mention of the Halibrands. On 5-14-63 it was shipped to Charlie Stuart Studebaker in Indianapolis IN. "as is" with CA license plates and "special mag wheels". The '63 style Halibrands are called the Sebring and supposedly appeared in about 1957. I was never able to get much info on the '64 style wheel from Halibrand other than the patterns were burned as bonfire fuel in the 70's. This info came from Halibrand after their buyout and move from CA. For reproductions of the Sebring try PS Engineering in CA http://www.psvintagewheels.com/home.html . Phil was making the Sebring in a 2 piece cast and welded wheel and in 1 piece cast (like the origs.)version. You might ask if he offers the '64 style as well.
Original Magnesium wheels age harden and become brittle and also oxidize quickly so they take quite a bit of upkeep to keep them looking nice. I've thought about making a new pattern and having some poured in either one of the newer Mag alloys that don't age harden or go to AlMag. Untill I can get myself a large Pattern lathe, it's a project that's not real high up on my list of priorities right now.

R2Andy

[StudeMichael]

Egbert's Avanti:

[StudeMichael]

[Bellingham Studenut]

quote:Originally posted by R2Andy

The pre-package SuperHawk I believe Jimes Bell is refering to is 63V23972. It was shipped to Los Angeles on 2-12-63 with no mention of the Halibrands. On 5-14-63 it was shipped to Charlie Stuart Studebaker in Indianapolis IN. "as is" with CA license plates and "special mag wheels". The '63 style Halibrands are called the Sebring and supposedly appeared in about 1957. I was never able to get much info on the '64 style wheel from Halibrand other than the patterns were burned as bonfire fuel in the 70's. This info came from Halibrand after their buyout and move from CA. For reproductions of the Sebring try PS Engineering in CA http://www.psvintagewheels.com/home.html . Phil was making the Sebring in a 2 piece cast and welded wheel and in 1 piece cast (like the origs.)version. You might ask if he offers the '64 style as well.
Original Magnesium wheels age harden and become brittle and also oxidize quickly so they take quite a bit of upkeep to keep them looking nice. I've thought about making a new pattern and having some poured in either one of the newer Mag alloys that don't age harden or go to AlMag. Untill I can get myself a large Pattern lathe, it's a project that's not real high up on my list of priorities right now.

R2Andy

That's the car R2 Andy!
How did you find Charlie Stewart's info?
It currently resides in Bellingham WA., but has some cheaper wheels on it.
Thanks for the link. It would be nice to see it's wheels return to the original style Halibrands.

James Bell

The Bell Collection
Bellingham, WA.

[R2Andrea]

There is an addendum to the Shipper which shows it going to Stewarts. Talk to Phil @ PS. He can build you the correct wheels. Ed George has a set of the 2 piece ones on his R3 powered '63 Avanti.


R2Andy

[fstst56]

Does anyone know what Jon Meyer is going to have to charge for his repro Halibrands?

[Gunslinger]

IF I remember correctly, the selling price of Halibrands is something like $2400-$2500 per set. He has an agreement with Hailbrand that they will make a new run of the wheels if a minimum number of wheels is ordered. There's only about half the confirmed orders at most toward that goal last I heard.




Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

[nels]

The repo wheels are close but the spinner tower is much more recessed in the wheel rim. I think there is a problem with DOT if the spinner protrudes beyond the rim.
I also bought a set of the Salt Flat wheels. I had an adapter machined to simulate the taller center tower. This adapter fit into the wheel center and had the Halibrand spinners push into the adapter. The result was a wheel that looked a lot closer to the original...at least at first glance.

[JDP]

Skip told me a DOT story when he bought some GM spinners for his SS Impala. He had to buy the cap and spinner separately, and install the spinner himself to be "legal"

JDP/Maryland

[Skip Lackie]

quote:Originally posted by JDP

Skip told me a DOT story when he bought some GM spinners for his SS Impala. He had to buy the cap and spinner separately, and install the spinner himself to be "legal"

JDP/Maryland

Yes. As Nels notes, the Feds outlawed spinners that extend beyond the fender back in the 70s (maybe somebody had watched Ben Hur too many times). Anyway, these regs are never retroactive to earlier models, so an accommodation had to be made for replacing damaged/lost wheel covers on existing cars. The solution was to sell the covers and spinners separately. The spinners came with a sticker that said "Conforms to applicable US Federal motor vehicle safety standards". I feel so much safer . . . .

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

[Bill Pressler]

quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

Egbert's Avanti:

Man, for me (born in '58), this car is the absolute, utmost, most-desirable Studebaker out there. That picture makes me weak in the knees!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1
'64 Daytona Hardtop