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  • Sad Fate and New Hope of the 51 Sand Car Prototype

    FIRST THINGS FIRST:
    My deepest thanks to Mike Lenyo, and the crew of guys involved with the Sand Car Rescue Project. After all of the research, and time spent getting permission, and finally access to remove the Sand Car, it was these True Hearted Studebaker fans and SDC members who were actually going to make the dream a reality and all the preperations come to fruition for me, the Museum, and the rest of us.

    THE OLD HOPE:
    I am glad to have lived my little dream this far. I got the chance to contribute my little bit of research, effort and desire to that of the host of SDCers who have attempted things like this in years past. All the stars seemed to be lining up. Bosch granted us access, and permission to remove the car, a pre look at the site and car seemed positive a few weeks prior, a Date was set in conjunction with the South Bend Meet when several key people would be in town, and even the weather was nice to us in the end. The rescue project I am told was a hot topic of discussion during the 09 south bend meet.
    The foliage in the Proving Grounds Woods at the graveyard site was just coming out (a week or 2 later and it may have been to thick to work through with the car). The transport truck was standing ready a few miles away (THANKS KIWI TRANSPORT in Washington!!!). A fine morning to do something so noble as preserve perhaps the only Stude Sand Car left in the world (and certianly the only 51).

    THE SAD FATE:
    That is where the original Dream ends. Sadly, I was not onsite due to the economy making me attend to my day job, but if I was I am not sure I could have taken it in stride. I got a call fairly early Monay Morning (the 4th) letting me know that the Sand Car had collapsed in on itself [B)] when they were just starting to try and get it lifted to get it on the skids. Apparently it was not as solid as thought during the initial inspection a few weeks earlyer. The floorpan (and quite a bit more) which had been sturdy enough to tip the car up and make way for the Woody rescue 30 years ago had become nothing more than leaves and iron rich soil
    There was apparently no structure left to keep it stable.

    SO..... May 4th 2009 is the date that the only 1951 Commander Desert Explorer Sand Car known to exist died, along with the original dream to rescue it. I now have no choice but to agree with what many have said, there is nothing that can be saved in that proving grounds graveyard. The Sand Car was our best shot.

    THE NEW HOPE:
    The Rescue Group did retrieve the only "Sand Car" specific parts that were on that old 51 (the rear Flaired Fenders), and will be sending those here. I will still build a Desert Explorer, A Clone if that is all I can do, most likely a 51 as close as possible to what the prototype would have been, using the "Spirit" of the old original 51 embodied in the fenders. I am now also begining as through of a search for ANY existing production Example Desert Explorer sand car I can find, even if I have to import it back here from Suadi. Maybe I will even find the original 1949 prototype that was sent there for testing, or the beautiful Red Convertable they gave to King Abdul Aziz during the Aarmaco Consesions.

    Thank you everyone for your support and encouragement during this whole process. The dream lives on, just in a new form.

    Here is a photo of the car which looks as though it was taken as it was actually collapsing. I will post a photo of the remains once one is sent to me.



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  • #2
    Sorry to hear about this Dee... but a Clone would be a good 2nd choice. [^]

    <h5>Mark
    '57 Transtar Deluxe
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    • #3
      quote:Originally posted by Mark57

      Sorry to hear about this Dee... but a Clone would be a good 2nd choice. [^]
      Sorry to hear it ended up being a failed mission, but indeed, get all the unique parts you can find off it.[^] Don't forget the serial number tag and body number tags, and take photos of any other chalk marks on the firewall if they are still visible.

      Craig

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      • #4
        Should be fairly easy to clone. The sandcars were converted-from-stock Studebakers, weren't they?

        Chris Pile
        Midway Chapter SDC
        The Studebaker Special
        The only difference between death and taxes is that death does not grow worse every time Congress convenes. - Will Rogers

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        • #5
          Thanks for this posting, Dee, in a round-about sort of way. It illustrates and verifies the condition of those cars in the High-Speed Oval Graveyard....and I know from being there two days about 18 years ago, that the sand car was one of the best ones extant at the time, if not the best one!

          That said, I would have been a part of the mission had I not been hobbling around on a stiff, open-toed "shoe" of sorts, due to a broken bone in my left foot. It's mandatory that I wear the device a little longer, but it would have been entirely unsuitable -and unsafe- for Oval Infield exploring. Mike Lenyo had invited me to attend the resurrection; had it not been for the foot issue, I'da been there with bells on...or steel-toed boots. BP

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          • #6
            [quote]quote:Originally posted by Lark Parker

            Originally posted by BobPalma

            Thanks for this posting, Dee, in a round-about sort of way. It illustrates and verifies the condition of those cars in the High-Speed Oval Graveyard....and I know from being there two days about 18 years ago, that the sand car was one of the best ones extant at the time, if not the best one!

            That said, I would have been a part of the mission had I not been hobbling around on a stiff, open-toed "shoe" of sorts, due to a broken bone in my left foot. It's mandatory that I wear the device a little longer, but it would have been entirely unsuitable -and unsafe- for Oval Infield exploring. Mike Lenyo had invited me to attend the resurrection; had it not been for the foot issue, I'da been there with bells on...or steel-toed boots. BP
            Crisis de Jour. The swine foot pandemic.
            Already one case reported in Indiana.


            Good grief, I just realized--how many people were exposed
            to this carrier when they walked the same ground at South Bend
            last weekend?





            Lark Parker

            Just an innocent possum strolling down life's highway.
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            • #7
              Sorry for your disappointment. I was excited by the project.
              But good luck with your new goal.

              PS. Will contributing to the SNM restoration fund help you?
              I make a donation each year with my SDC renewal...

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              1914 Stutz Bearcat
              (George Barris replica)

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              63 Avanti R1 2788
              1914 Stutz Bearcat
              (George Barris replica)

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by Lark Parker

                Originally posted by Lark Parker
                Crisis de Jour. The swine foot pandemic.
                Already one case reported in Indiana.

                Lark Parker
                Well, I did have some pork sausage in early March, when I broke the bone, Lark...[:0][}] BP

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                • #9
                  Mark:
                  Thanks you for the condolences. I agree a clone is the 2nd best possibiltiy, especially when it contains a small bit of the original.

                  Craig: I believe they looked the remains over quite carefully. As a prototype it had no normal body tags and markings, but may have had some type of tag or mark. I will amke sure to get all the needed info to do it right.

                  Chris: Quite correct, they were converted from stock production cars. In the case of the 51 prototype, there is a lot of room for speculation on what equipment they even chose to try.

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                  • #10
                    Bob:
                    You are quite welcome. And very correct. i see now I probably should have left well enough alone, but the sand car looked so solid, and was by all accounts the best possibility. I think the only option left, is to do as I plan to at most, and scavange the "prototype" section of a car there and use it to build a "Tribute". Sombody should get that wrap around rear window! Sorry to hear about your foot. Seems as though something kept both of us away. Its a good thing for me, I would have cryed when the car died [not sayin I didnt a little anyway].

                    JBoyle: Thank you much, I was really excited too, and as much Heartbroken now. Still, the Desert Explorer WILL live on, in some form. Donating to the SNM is a great thing to do, and will definatley benifet the restoration of the Woody etc that they have, and so is a good idea in my book if you can or want to. None of it would go to me or this project (even if the Sand Car had been recovered it would have been 100% out of my pocket to see it through, and I would have gladly done it), but do not let that stop you from supporting the Museum in whatever way you feel suited.

                    55 Commander
                    XA Bat (The Roadwarrior)
                    KARR (Knightrider)
                    Eleanor (ORIGINAL Gone in 60 Seconds)


                    "Hero Car Ranch"; Seattle, Wa.

                    55 Commander Regal Coupe
                    XA Bat (The Roadwarrior)
                    KARR (Knightrider)
                    Eleanor (ORIGINAL Gone in 60 Seconds)


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                    • #11
                      I was hoping this would go better, as the project is such a cool idea. In a photo it may still look a bit like a "car" but whats gone is gone.
                      I'm glad you got those fender extensions. Were the fronts still lying around?
                      As the project now moves to "tribute" status, it seems to me you're options open up a bit. Like perhaps a tribute to the 50 convert instead of the 51 4 door. []
                      From the factory photo shots, the fender flares look the same.

                      Whatever you decide to do, I'm glad you're doing it! The sand cars were a really neat sidebar in Studebaker history.


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                      • #12
                        quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

                        quote:Originally posted by Lark Parker

                        Originally posted by Lark Parker
                        Crisis de Jour. The swine foot pandemic.
                        Already one case reported in Indiana.

                        Lark Parker
                        Well, I did have some pork sausage in early March, when I broke the bone, Lark...[:0][}] BP
                        Bob P,
                        I have it from some health authorities that swine foot is not something we can just
                        walk away from because the outbreak nunber is low -- like one.
                        The really big pandemic of swine foot will break out this fall when the football season
                        starts unless we can step in and make sure all the pigskin footballs are outlawed.

                        Are you sure you don't remember kicking a pig, or maybe a really ugly fat dog?

                        LP
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                        • #13
                          Michidan:
                          My sorrow over the loss makes me want to recreate the 51 prototype as faithfully as possible. However the sad fate of what should have been saved will eventually fade. I am going to do my best to ALSO aquire an ORIGINAL Desert Explorer (so if anyone has any leads let me know), and with a miricle it might be the 49 Prototype, or even King Aziz's convertable:



                          But a replica of this would be sweet too eh? Maybe it is what I will go for. I havent had a ragtop yet..............[]

                          55 Commander
                          XA Bat (The Roadwarrior)
                          KARR (Knightrider)
                          Eleanor (ORIGINAL Gone in 60 Seconds)


                          "Hero Car Ranch"; Seattle, Wa.

                          55 Commander Regal Coupe
                          XA Bat (The Roadwarrior)
                          KARR (Knightrider)
                          Eleanor (ORIGINAL Gone in 60 Seconds)


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                          • #14
                            Sorry to here this happened, and good luck with the tribute car.

                            Dylan Wills

                            '61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon
                            Dylan Wills
                            Everett, Wa.


                            1961 Lark 4 door wagon
                            1961 Lark 4 door wagon #2 (Wife's car!)
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                            • #15
                              hmm, I guess the idea of putting a light in the bulletnose a while back wasn't as original as some of us thought.

                              '50 Champion, 1 family owner

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