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    Dave Carnocs Avanti II sold for 152,000 on BAT today.
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  • #2
    Could be. That really nice Four-Seasons roadster sold for $134,000.

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    • #3
      What was "Special" about this one ?
      Usually Post Studebaker Avantis trail Studebaker ones in value by 10's of thousands.
      I don't think most of us know of Dave or his Avanti.

      UPDATE: Looks like if I had seen THIS, I would have a Clue, it totally "Looks" like a stock Black Studebaker Avanti, minus all the Nameplates and Emblems, not even an Avanti II !

      Quote BAT: "This 1973 Avanti II was built by Dave Carnock of Carnock Creations in Des Moines, Iowa, between 2016 and 2023. The car utilizes an Art Morrison Enterprises chassis with tubular front control arms, power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering, and a triangulated four-bar rear suspension, while QA1 coil-over shocks and anti-roll bars are featured at both ends of the vehicle. Power is supplied by a fuel-injected 6.2-liter LS3 V8 crate engine linked to a 4L70E four-speed automatic transmission. The fiberglass body has been refinished in black, and the interior is trimmed in turquoise vinyl. The Ford 9″ rear end contains a limited-slip differential, and other equipment includes Team III 17″ and 18″ aluminum wheels, power-assisted Wilwood four-wheel disc brakes, a ceramic-coated exhaust system, round headlight trim, modified bumpers and turn signals, a front air dam, Vintage Air climate control, Dakota Digital instrumentation, a digital stereo, a custom steering wheel on a tilting column, cruise control, and a custom center console."

      OR, maybe THIS:
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      Last edited by StudeRich; 10-16-2025, 05:52 PM.
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      • #4
        Several years ago a '57 Golden Hawk sold for something like $180K on a Barrett/Jackson auction. Crazy money. I have not seen one of those sell for more than about $160K since. And most sell for much less.
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        • #5
          Nice looking car and should be very drivable but no where near worth that kind of money.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by swvalcon View Post
            Nice looking car and should be very drivable but no where near worth that kind of money.
            Go to any live auction or auction site and one will very quickly come to understand there are many with so much money "worth" does not enter into it; they want it, they buy it.

            FWIW, that Avanti cost far more to build than the sale price.

            jack vines
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            • Hawklover
              Hawklover commented
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              As my father quipped when I was a young man, there are people with money will always have money and will purchase anything they take a fancy to.

          • #7
            No it’s not top price …… largest price was the Indy car that went for about a million or so !
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            • #8
              This car is what every Avanti II wants to be when it grows up.

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              • Hawklover
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                LOL money does not care who it belongs to.

            • #9
              Damn for that kind of money I can put a 10% down payment of a 507 BMW, that gents is an automobile.

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              • #10
                Originally posted by Hawklover View Post
                Damn for that kind of money I can put a 10% down payment of a 507 BMW, that gents is an automobile.
                Have you ever driven one? Never meet your heros.

                jack vines
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                • Hawklover
                  Hawklover commented
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                  Jack can it be on "worse" than a big block Corvette with side pipes???

              • #11
                Saw this Avanti in St. Louis a couple of years ago. Price aside, it’s impressive!

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                • #12
                  Originally posted by 2R5 View Post
                  No it’s not top price …… largest price was the Indy car that went for about a million or so !
                  Was that the original 1931 that Stan Smith Sr and Jr restored in Boalsburg, Pa, then sold to Bob Valpey?

                  Photo of it's public debut in 1981 at the SDC-Atlantic Zone Meet, Pennsylvania Military Museum in Boalsburg:
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                  • #13
                    This one https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-23GIXU sold for $1,105,000 a few years ago.

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                    • rockne10
                      rockne10 commented
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                      Yep! That's the one the Smith's restored. The only one that ran at Indy in 1931 (I think running first when it went over the wall), then won the Pikes peak Hill-climb that year.

                  • #14
                    Originally posted by Hawklover View Post
                    Damn for that kind of money I can put a 10% down payment of a 507 BMW, that gents is an automobile.
                    When I lived in Belgium in 1980 I saw a 507 BMW for sale for about $3500. It was a nice looking car in decent shape.
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                    • #15
                      The selling prices that we see today for high end collector cars are just a shadow of what they were twenty years ago. The S Ray Miller collection will probably never be approached again for the number of great cars and the prices that buyers were willing to pay (for Studebakers). Much has changed over the last twenty years in the collector car market and especially for some of the pre-war Classics, not the least of which is the value of the dollar. So when you see the price paid in 2004 remember to value sales in real money terms. A dollar in 2004 is worth $1.72 today.

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                      Last edited by Hallabutt; 10-21-2025, 03:24 PM.

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