Burnin’ firewood

[BRUCESTUDE]

We have had some really wet weather here in arid eastern Washington, and getting cold! Fortunately I’ve got a decent wood stove in the shop, and another project, an M16. Tomorrow, Thanksgiving, I plan on picking up my 91 year young mom in the recently finished Land Cruiser.

[jts359]

Happy Thanksgiving to yours and Mom , Ed

[medium_jon]

Happy Thanksgiving. Those rear hubs look good in their fresh paint.

[Al from Eatonville]

And a fire truck too! How cool is that? Good luck with your project. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

[Studebakercenteroforegon]

It can get cold in Yakima in the winter time. I used to come up to Yakima Speedway in mid-August every year for the Sun City 300 Stock Car Race. But it was always very warm in August!

[BRUCESTUDE]

Yes, it does get warm, seems like a distant memory now! BTW the Yakima Speedway closed a couple years ago, now the land is being developed.

[bensherb]

Nice! I love fire trucks. I also have two wood stoves in my shop and one in the house. I've heated both with them exclusively with wood for three decades, but now the county ( and many other county's around here) won't let us burn wood any more. So I haven't had heat in almost three years. Luckily, it rarely drops to freezing here, but mid 30's overnights and low to mid 50's days are still cold.

Have a great Thanksgiving !!

[PackardV8]

California is in a parallel universe. Up here in WA, even on "no burn" days, if wood is the only source of heat, one is allowed to heat with it. Idea is, when there is an inversion and particular content is high, recreational wood burning is prohibited, but not sole source heating. There are so few still using it, won't be the tipping point.

jack vines

[rockne10]

Glad the least of us are at least being considered. In this PARTICULAR case, bless the lawmakers!

[Henry]

Nice, Bruce! I'm thankful for an airplane hangar in which to store & play with my cars. The downside is the size and lack of any insulation, so heating the whole place would break the bank. I'm hoping to get a propane tank and a pair of radiant heaters that sit on top, so I can (CAREFULLY) drag it around to the general vicinity in which I'm working. Electric heaters have proven mostly ineffective.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

[StudeRich]

AND Electric is way beyond most people's budget ! Propane should be used for everything, including Cars and Trucks.

The cheapest and most efficient.

[Andy R.]

Wow, big love for BOTH vehicles.

Funny, plenty of people in San Francisco burn wood in fireplaces when it gets chilly and nobody says squat! 🔥🤫😂

These high ceiling Victorians need all the help they can get.

[rockne10]

What they need is retro-insulation, and saved for future generations. It only costs money in the near time.

[Buzzard]

In the wilds of British Columbia wood heat is my PRIMARY source with propane being the backup. If there is a a downside, wood is definitely messy (dirty) but cheap and plentiful. We never suffer from power outages so no reliance on power companies.
Bill

[altair]

The prohibition of burning wood can be very technical, I was once on the enforcement side of the fence. When a bylaw is filed it must be filed with the registrar of regulations before it is enacted. When a bylaw is written is must contain a purpose and intent and whose jurisdiction applies. Burning of wood alone is not the issue, the prime issue is pollution, now this is where it gets tricky, who's jurisdiction is the air because the fire in your appliance itself is not the issue, just the smoke. Who can physically measure it? There is a written criteria with limits as to parts per million etc. but who can measure it coming out the stack. Because of the unenforceable rules the local jurisdiction has drafted an affidavit for any person to voluntary sign that they will not burn wood because the regulation is unenforceable. If you were fined for burning wood and paid the fine doesn't prove anything. In a garage where there is a possibility flammable vapors the appliance should be four feet off the floor because the vapors are heaver than air and this will reduce the risk of unwanted ignition.

[bensherb]

Here it's in the jurisdiction of the San Joaquin Valley air pollution control district which controls 265 miles of the central valley from Galt to Bakersfield. Everything to the west of here is controlled by the East Bay air quality management district. Nobody has ever asked us to sign anything, and the only way we find out were not supposed to burn is when somebody complains or a neighbor tells us. They have a website to check for days when we are allowed to burn from November thru February. It's easy to guess though; if it's cold no burning.

[Dwight FitzSimons]

"if it's cold no burning"

See, they made it simple and clearcut.

[altair]

I think if you look in to the regulation as it is written the "burning" of wood is not the issue it is the converting the solid to a gas ie. "smoke". The regulation will contain a specific criteria addressing to the quality of the smoke (the same as smog testing in a car). Burning alone would not be in contravention of the regulation one would have to be in excess of the established standard. As the title says San Juaquin Valley "air pollution". What is coming of the stack is the issue and would have to be measured to determine if the user is in contravention. The program is primarily voluntary and most don't pollute. If somebody was formally charged this would all come to a head. The same air pollution standards apply here and they are not enforceable because measuring what is coming out the stack is not possible to prove the accused is in contravention. Hence the affidavit program to introduce the voluntary application. Just burning alone is not the issue. It doesn't matter what their name or how big their jurisdiction is, it is what is coming out the stack that matters. There is a criteria set by the Underwriters Laboratory for acceptable levels of pollution and there are manufacturers of appliances that meet or exceed the standards and those labelled appliances may burn wood. Some existing appliances can be converted to meet the standards. There is an industry that manufactures appliances that meet the listed criteria by the controlling districts/counties or designated areas. Just look in to it a little bit deeper and you will see what I am talking about.

[bensherb]

Yes you are correct. They will let us burn IF we have a "certified" wood stove that is no more than two years old. They are expensive. I do have a wood stove not an open fire place but it is fairly old now, but when I'm allowed to burn I can heat the house with only three to four splits of wood a day. Roughly a 8" to 10" round log 15" long split into three or four.

[aardvark]

So one Volcano or Forest Fire displaces more Carbons in a day than any of You or Your Communities could produce in year?.
Where is the Common Sense?
We here in Western NC are going to do what we have done for Hundreds of years... Better not try and regulate us here.

[altair]

So one Volcano or Forest Fire displaces more Carbons in a day than any of You or Your Communities could produce in year?.
Where is the Common Sense?
We here in Western NC are going to do what we have done for Hundreds of years... Better not try and regulate us here.

Well put, there is no common sense.

[altair]

I am 84 and I have burned wood all my life and I will continue to burn wood until I die.