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    First off I wish to thank the members that responded to my power steering control valve issue. From advice I received here, I did use Precision Performance in San Antonio to rebuild my valve, that worked out very well....... Now, I am considering the swap to front disc brakes, my concern is what to do about the master cylinder and a proportion valve. Any advice?

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    My advice is to contact Jim Turner at Turner Brake. He makes retrofit disc brake kits that will include all of the parts you will need to install disc brakes on your car. Bud

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    • #3
      Originally posted by old black truck View Post
      First off I wish to thank the members that responded to my power steering control valve issue. From advice I received here, I did use Precision Performance in San Antonio to rebuild my valve, that worked out very well....... Now, I am considering the swap to front disc brakes, my concern is what to do about the master cylinder and a proportion valve. Any advice?
      You might also consider the Hot Rods & Brakes disc brake conversion kit, which is appreciably lighter and a little cheaper.

      One way to avoid the proportioning valve would be to put the Avanti's 11" rear drums on your car. They are non-self energizing, so don't need a proportioning valve. Note that the rear parking brake cable will have to be replaced with the 11" rear brakes (because it is different).

      With disc brakes you will have to remove the check valve from the MC. New MC's are (were?) under $50 and the check valve is easily removed.

      --Dwight
      Last edited by Dwight FitzSimons; 02-13-2022, 09:26 AM.

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      • #4
        As Dwight notes -
        "Hot Rods and Brakes" is another good kit.
        FRONT DISC BRAKE CONVERSION KITS FOR FORD & STUDEBAKER CARS AND TRUCKS

        I had one for may years and many, many trouble free miles on my 59 Lark wagon. It's a lot lighter, but no less effective. No need to add a lot of weight to your cars suspension if it's not required.
        I also have one currently on my 54 wagon, but I've modified it for a different caliper.

        Mike

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        • #5
          My '55 Speedster came with a Fatman fabracated front clip (see my tobyknollgarage.com) which had GM G-body front disc brakes, Mustang II steering and stainless control arms, I added a replacement power brake booster, a proportioning valve, and a Fatman sway bar. I am very happy with it. I do not have power steering - don't need it.
          Toby Knoll Garage

          www.tobyknollgarage.com
          ______

          '51 Muntz Jet
          '53 Woodill Wildfire/Dodge
          '54 Hudson Hornet Grand National Tribute car
          '55 Studebaker Speedster/Cadillac
          '56 Corvette SR replica

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          • #6
            My Turner disks work great on my M5

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            • #7
              To your "yes or no" question, I say no, just get the original brakes working properly.
              Gary L.
              Wappinger, NY

              SDC member since 1968
              Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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              • #8
                S2D has the turner brake kit with discs on all four corners. And I've owned multiple new sports cars including a hellcat challenger and c6/c7 corvette. The brakes on S2D rival those for feel and maybe not outright stopping power but pretty dang close. I highly recommend them

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                • #9
                  The first question you should ask yourself is "What's the goal?" Do you want a daily driver, then, by all means, convert. If you want a car to drive occasionally, leave it stock.
                  78 Avanti RQB 2792
                  64 Avanti R1 R5408
                  63 Avanti R1 R4551
                  63 Avanti R1 R2281
                  62 GT Hawk V15949
                  56 GH 6032504
                  56 GH 6032588
                  55 Speedster 7160047
                  55 Speedster 7165279

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                  • #10
                    I know everyone on this site has driven with old style drum brakes and disc brakes. I have factory 11" drums on my '56 Corvette and my '54 Hudson (front) with power assist. They will NOT stop either car going 65 mph (experiences)! I need to leave a hundred feet when I cruise, even at 55.
                    Toby Knoll Garage

                    www.tobyknollgarage.com
                    ______

                    '51 Muntz Jet
                    '53 Woodill Wildfire/Dodge
                    '54 Hudson Hornet Grand National Tribute car
                    '55 Studebaker Speedster/Cadillac
                    '56 Corvette SR replica

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                    • #11
                      If you can't lock the wheels with drum brakes, then you are using the wrong friction material. They certainly would when they were new. The only advantage of disc brakes is REPEATABLE stopping. Drum brakes fade when hot and also don't work wet.
                      Bez Auto Alchemy
                      573-318-8948
                      http://bezautoalchemy.com


                      "Don't believe every internet quote" Abe Lincoln

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                      • #12
                        I always test my brakes after driving through a deep puddle. Having good brakes can eliminate many stressful situations in life.
                        JT

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bezhawk View Post
                          If you can't lock the wheels with drum brakes, then you are using the wrong friction material. They certainly would when they were new. The only advantage of disc brakes is REPEATABLE stopping. Drum brakes fade when hot and also don't work wet.
                          For true, Brad. What has happened is two bad things as far as drum brake linings. First, asbestos was taken out of brake linings; a carcinogenic material, but a wonderful brake lining. Second, most later drum brakes are on the rear of vehicles with power boosted front discs. As such, they mostly are designed to function as a parking brake. Those linings are much harder and thus are not appropriate for use on front drum brakes.

                          jack vines
                          PackardV8

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                          • #14
                            Interesting points of view and information. I still maintain that for modern driving conditions drums are just simply inadequate.
                            Toby Knoll Garage

                            www.tobyknollgarage.com
                            ______

                            '51 Muntz Jet
                            '53 Woodill Wildfire/Dodge
                            '54 Hudson Hornet Grand National Tribute car
                            '55 Studebaker Speedster/Cadillac
                            '56 Corvette SR replica

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                            • #15
                              Wow these Posts have certainly accomplished one thing for SURE ... how to spend a Ton of your money! Some quite a bit over $1000.00 - $2000.00.

                              So figuring out just How Much will it be driven, might be important.
                              StudeRich
                              Second Generation Stude Driver,
                              Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                              SDC Member Since 1967

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