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  • What kind of T85 is this?

    Took the T85 with OD out of the '64 Daytona hardtop today. It was attached to a worn-out 259 engine, non full flow. I was surprised to find an input shaft with a fine spline, and an oddly-configured collar to fit the pilot bearing. I don't think this one came from a Studebaker. Any guesses as to its provenance? It did seem to work OK, as much as could be told by scooting around the yard in First and Reverse. OD lockout cable was hooked up, but not the governor or solenoid. Have not checked to see if solenoid is six or twelve volt, but it is a two-terminal solenoid. This transmission had a Hurst floor shift bolted onto it, too. Mouse nest in bell housing. Grrrr! Three pictures to show what I found. Fourth pic is the flywheel from Fester's 259 getting cut on my brake lathe. You can see, faintly, a hard spot just above the cutter set screw. I was just starting the last pass, and yay!!! the last hard spot went away. I will hit the finished surface with a D/A sander and 240 grit paper in effort to give it some semblance of a ground finish. Fester's engine and four-speed will go into the Daytona.
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    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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    Ford? With a synchromesh low gear?
    Restorations by Skip Towne

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dwain G. View Post
      Ford? With a synchromesh low gear?

      I guess I could remove the side cover, and have a peek inside.
      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dwain G. View Post
        Ford? With a synchromesh low gear?
        Ford synchro three-speeds are top loaders.

        Gord, at a guess, someone found a Ford truck T85 and had a good machinist make that extension to reach the Stude pilot bearing.

        jack vines
        PackardV8

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post

          Ford synchro three-speeds are top loaders.

          Gord, at a guess, someone found a Ford truck T85 and had a good machinist make that extension to reach the Stude pilot bearing.

          jack vines
          That tailshaft extension seems mighty long. Longer than the normal Studebaker one?
          Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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          • #6
            I had a buddy in HS with a 57 Mercury 2 door hardtop. Only a 312 but it had a T85 non OD in it. No synchro low.
            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gordr View Post

              That tailshaft extension seems mighty long. Longer than the normal Studebaker one?
              Yes, Gord; the Ford truck versions have a longer tailshaft and a shorter input shaft than the Stude. They also have different gear ratios.

              jack vines
              PackardV8

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              • #8
                I will try to pull some numbers off it later. It was, as modified, working in the '64 Daytona, to the extent that I had the direct drive gears with OD locked out. I guess I could bench-test the OD by applying power to the solenoid and seeing if it makes the shift to the planetaries.
                Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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                • #9
                  And, as a matter of complete coincidence, we had a chapter work party at my place, to identify and sort chapter-owned parts stashed in a skid shack at the bottom of my lot. One of the members brought some clubs stuff that had been stashed in his barn. And in that truckload was a T86 overdrive transmission with a long tailshaft, and a short, fine-spline input shaft like the T85 described above. Cover off, and quite rusty. I will tear it down, and see if any parts are worth saving. Pretty sure now that the T85 is a modified Ford unit.
                  Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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