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    Sooo, I finally got the 7K together to have my Wagonaire painted. It took 13 months for the guy to finish the job. I picked it up yesterday and started putting the grille on and thought the color looked off. After doing a little digging I had given the correct PPG code to him for Studebaker ermine white, somehow it was painted GM ermine white, which is very white not the creamy ermine white. I pointed out the error to the painter and he reluctantly agreed to repaint the correct color. I am kinda confused about ermine white, I had ordered a custom can of Studebaker ermine spray paint and it was very very yellow. Soooo give me your opinion should I just let it go or have the poor guy repaint in Studebaker ermine. I would prefer a creamy white rather than white/white but not the yellow in the custom mixed rattle can. Give me your 2 cents worth please.

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    My Wagonaire was painted Avanti White which is close to 65 Chevy Ermine White. I thought it looked great. Fresher looking than the Stude Ermine White.

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    If I was happy with the quality of the paint job, I would not have it resprayed. I assume it was a complete job. Door jambs, trunk engine compartment, etc. Too much risk of it being a lower quality job. (and again, I like the brighter white). You'll have a couple of Stude purists nit picking the color but 99% of the folks that see it will not know the color is slightly different than original.
    Last edited by Dick Steinkamp; 07-08-2021, 05:51 PM.
    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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    • #3
      Thanks Dick, I'm leaning your direction. I don't what the risk of lower quality is, but painting over the clearcoat seems dubious.

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      • #4
        If you didn't notice it right off and had to get it home and start putting it together before you noticed it, who's gonna notice it when it's been reassembled?

        If the painter took 13 months to get it done the first time and you are pleased with the quality of the work, do you really want to risk sending it back? I much prefer the creamier 1963 Ermine White over the brighter Astra White of my 1964 model year Daytonas, but under the circumstances, I'd live with what you have since you like the quality of the job otherwise. BP

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dudeabaker View Post
          ".................he reluctantly agreed to repaint the correct color."
          Doesn't sound like a recipe for a speedy or quality repaint to me. Kinda like sending your restaurant food back to the kitchen -- no telling what they might do to it!

          The two pics you posted look like they were taken at night, which seems to make the white look brighter. Have any pictures taken in sunlight?

          Dick's Wagonaire looks great in the brighter white, I assume yours would look that good too.
          Paul
          Winston-Salem, NC
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          • #6
            Stude Ermine white does have a lot of yellow in it. It looks good on its own, but park it next to a white car, and it looks yellow in comparison.

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            • #7
              That long and he didn't get it right. I would ask for a price adjustment and not let him do more work on the car. I see that he got white paint where there shouldn't be any.
              I see slight modifications. Are you aware that the wheelcovers pictured are not for a 1963 Lark?
              Gary L.
              Wappinger, NY

              SDC member since 1968
              Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dudeabaker View Post
                After doing a little digging I had given the correct PPG code to him for Studebaker ermine white, somehow it was painted GM ermine white, which is very white not the creamy ermine white. I pointed out the error to the painter and he reluctantly agreed to repaint the correct color. Soooo give me your opinion should I just let it go or have the poor guy repaint in Studebaker ermine.
                I would leave it 'as is' as it still appears very presentable. But to compensate for his error, ask him to repaint the interior painted trim (at least the cargo area items as they usually show the most wear over time.) on his dime. You do all the prep work with it 'ready-for-paint', but his cost of materials and labor.

                Craig

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                • #9
                  I would say your call but if what you have is a nice job and you are happy with it leave it as is. Most whites yellow a shade or two with age and unless its parked real close to one the right color 1 out of a million will know.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by swvalcon View Post
                    I would say your call but if what you have is a nice job and you are happy with it leave it as is. Most whites yellow a shade or two with age and unless its parked real close to one the right color 1 out of a million will know.
                    I agree 100%. Personally I much prefer the purer whites and actually dislike the yellowy whites. BUT, it's your vehicle. Do what will make you happy. However, do you think painter will spend as much effort on a redo on which he will lose money?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dudeabaker View Post
                      Sooo, I finally got the 7K together to have my Wagonaire painted. It took 13 months for the guy to finish the job.

                      Who recommended this painter? Have you had him do previous jobs for you with good results? Are you planning on having the car judged?

                      I picked it up yesterday and started putting the grille on and thought the color looked off. After doing a little digging I had given the correct PPG code to him for Studebaker ermine white, somehow it was painted GM ermine white, which is very white not the creamy ermine white. I pointed out the error to the painter and he reluctantly agreed to repaint the correct color.

                      You gave the painter the correct code. What time frame would it be to get the car back with the correct color? Seems like to me 2 years is a long time before you could get behind the wheel.

                      I am kinda confused about ermine white, I had ordered a custom can of Studebaker ermine spray paint and it was very very yellow. Soooo give me your opinion should I just let it go or have the poor guy repaint in Studebaker ermine. I would prefer a creamy white rather than white/white but not the yellow in the custom mixed rattle can. Give me your 2 cents worth please.
                      Most except the most ardent Studebaker people would not know the difference. I would see if he would deduct the cost of the materials since you did supply the correct information. Over time, the color will change but it won't be the correct Studebaker ermine white. Yet if you can use the car with a pride of ownership, that is the whole ball of wax.

                      My 2 cents. As others have said many times, your car your money.

                      Bob Miles
                      I am no where near at this time where you are currently on your Studebaker

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                      • #12
                        For $7000 and 13 months is should have been correct. For myself, I prefer the brighter white's. Not a fan of yellowish or off white colors. I'd leave it as is.

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                        • #13
                          I recently painted my 61 Hawk Ermine white, back in the day there were no really crisp. Whites without the Tinanium Oxide needed, so all white cars were off white. I got a ppg formulary for Ermine white & it’ s definitely more of a cream , which I think looks period correct, but really it’s what ever you are happy with, after spending 7 k, you would really want to get what you want. I’m in Australia & we still use 2k paint, so my car is sold colour without a clear coat, what system did they use?
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                          • #14
                            If the original body paint was not stripped to bare metal I would leave it as is. Adding more paint could lead cracking due to too much paint. It wont happen overnight but later it will appear. In hindsight he should have sprayed a color swatch and had you approve it before painting the entire car. Depending on condition when he received it 7K and 13 months, is not unreasonable at all, in fact it could be a bargain. Last car I had painted the paint was 1100.00 per gallon near 500.00 for clear coat and 3000.00 for the spraying.
                            Prep and finishing was extra.
                            It is an addiction!

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                            • #15
                              I'd leave it alone. With all the chrome trim added back on, it should look very nice.

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