64 Gran Tursimo Options

[Mark Plucenik]

[?] I have a 64 GT and am doing a bodyoff restoration. The 64 is an automatic car but I really wanted the 4 speed. I recently found a 62 GT parts car with the 4 speed for the swap. The 62 has anouther option I could use some help with. It has a small radiator under the passenger bucket seat. Was this for additional cooling or was it a seat heater? Also was it an option available in the 64 model year?
Any help is appreciated.
Mark Plucenik

[Dick Steinkamp]

Studebaker went from the under seat heater that they used since 1953 in the C/K models to the more conventional engine compartment mounted heater in early '63. Yours would have the later, and no under seat heater was available in '64.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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[StudeRich]

Hi Mark; welcome to SDC and to the SDC Forum!

Mark your car has the NEW improved Climatizer Heating and Defrosting System that replaced the old under seat heater core in 1963 on the Hawk Models. [^]

Yours is in the fibreglass box on the right inner fender instead. You have fresh air Defrosting that the old system does not. []

You still need to have the right fender outside air door open however, to get air flow to make the system work the best. The handle is under the dash on the right. [:0]


StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA

[BobPalma]

Mark: Dick & Rich helped with the heater issue, so there's no more to be said about that.

I want to caution you to be sure to dial-indicate the bell housing from the '62 when you put it on the 1964's engine block, per the Shop Manual.

Also, you will have to remove the engine oil pan and replace the shorter crankshaft-to-flex-plate bolts for the automatic with the longer crankshaft-to-flywheel bolts needed for the 4-speed. If the '62 is a complete parts car, you may be able to get the longer crankshaft bolts from it, but I'd recommend getting new bolts to save trouble and be safe.

Good luck with the project! BP

[studee64]

Hi Mark,

We are putting a GT Hawk Registry together and would like to include your car. Please contact me direct at studee64@cogeco.ca and I will send you the registration information.
Thanks,

Barry Leppan
Burlington, Ont. Canada
64 Daytona HT 5-spd
64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift
Hamilton Chapter

[candbstudebakers]

barry maybe you can send me the same info as I also have a 64 R-2 full package car, and would be interested in the new group....Bob Peteson....candbstudebakers@sbcglobal.net

[studee64]

Bob, is your email Peteson......etc or just candbstudebakers@sbcglobal.net
tks
Barry

Barry Leppan
Burlington, Ont. Canada
64 Daytona HT 5-spd
64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift
Hamilton Chapter

[studebaker-R2-4-me]

Mark,

Welcome to the forum. Bob makes an excellent point! You need to change the Crank shaft to Flywheel bolts. Dialing in the bellhousing will ensure proper alignment for the transmission to the engine.

quote:BobPalma Posted - 01/07/2009 : 9:09:28 PM Mark: Dick & Rich helped with the heater issue, so there's no more to be said about that.

I want to caution you to be sure to dial-indicate the bell housing from the '62 when you put it on the 1964's engine block, per the Shop Manual.

Also, you will have to remove the engine oil pan and replace the shorter crankshaft-to-flex-plate bolts for the automatic with the longer crankshaft-to-flywheel bolts needed for the 4-speed. If the '62 is a complete parts car, you may be able to get the longer crankshaft bolts from it, but I'd recommend getting new bolts to save trouble and be safe.

Good luck with the project! BP

Follow my post of "How to dial in a Bellhousing" You can find it on this fantastic website of Bob Johnstone's

Here's the links:

http://www.studebaker-info.org/rjtechx3.html#Transmissions

http://www.studebaker-info.org/tech/Engine/r2dialin/r2dialin.html

Best of luck with that GT Hawk!

Allen


1964 R2 GT Hawk

1963 Daytona Convertible
Oakville, Ontario.
Hamilton Chapter
See you in Cedar Rapids Summer 2009

[Mark Plucenik]

Guys ,Thank you for all the info, I have had this car for around 8 years now and and redone the frame and suspension. Getting ready to do the engine and trans swap. The body is still off and I have NOS rear quarters and front fenders, the doors and hood are perfect but I still need to get rocker panels and floor pans as well as the normal trunk deck rust repair.
Just getting back to this project after a few years.
Thank you , Mark

64 GT
34 Chevy 5 window
37 Packard 120 conv
65 & 64 Karman Ghias
67 & 73 VW Beetles

[StudeRich]

quote:Originally posted by Mark Plucenik

Getting ready to do the engine and trans swap.

Mark; the reason some of us guessed that you might be using the original '64 Engine and mating it to the 4 Speed Clutch Housing and Transmission, is that we know that the full-flow is a better engine and the '62 may not be one, if it is an early '62! [:0]

Maybe that is not an option for you, as we do not know the condition of the '64 Engine.

Also if car value is important to you, the '64 289 Engine has a radically different Serial Numbering system than a '62, and would be easily spotted as incorrect. [:0]

[Mark Plucenik]

The 64 has a good rebuildable engine . running good but using some oil when it was disassembled 10 years ago.I will get the engine # Saturday in better light and reply again. The 62 parts car is shot. The 4 speed and rear are OK ,the engine is stuck , frame rotten and no good body panels. I still have the car but expect to trash it next week. I will get the engine # off it Sat. AM and maybe you could let me know if they are the correct engines and if there is any thing special. IfI am reading you correcty are you saying the 64 engine is the better of the two years?
Thanks again . Mark

[BobPalma]

quote:Originally posted by Mark Plucenik

The 64 has a good rebuildable engine . running good but using some oil when it was disassembled 10 years ago.I will get the engine # Saturday in better light and reply again. The 62 parts car is shot. The 4 speed and rear are OK ,the engine is stuck , frame rotten and no good body panels. I still have the car but expect to trash it next week. I will get the engine # off it Sat. AM and maybe you could let me know if they are the correct engines and if there is any thing special. IfI am reading you correcty are you saying the 64 engine is the better of the two years?
Thanks again . Mark

Yes, Mark: If you will post the stamped (not the raised, cast) numbers on the very front of the engine block, driver side, we'll be able to give you everything you want to know about the two engines at your disposal. BP

[studebaker-R2-4-me]

The '64 engine has a full flow oil system with a spin-on filter on the bottom of the engine. The '62 has a partial flow oil system with a filter on the top of the engine.

Don't trash that Dana 44 from the '62 either. Check to see if it is twin track (Posi). To check it remove the oil plug and stick your finger in the hole. If your finger stops right away it's a Twin Track.

There are lot's of guys looking for them too.


1964 R2 GT Hawk

1963 Daytona Convertible
Oakville, Ontario.
Hamilton Chapter
See you in Cedar Rapids Summer 2009

[candbstudebakers]

Barry, just use candbstudebakers@sbcglobal.net

[hopinfox]

Hi Rich, I also have a 64 Hawk GT and as a word of encouragment, it is the finest driving Studebaker I have ever had! (and I had quite a few) Best of luck and get her on the road! Mike

M.hopinfox/Kennesaw,Ga.
63 Champ (connie)
64 Commander(commando)
64 Hawk (nite rider)
65 Daytona (pumpkin)