Expertise

[AlainBahuaud]

Hi Stude
few month ago I ordered an pré purchase inspection by nationwide arbitrations & inspections .they send me a report with 90 pics.
when the car arrived at home,at the first look we saw that the chassis front right side member is folded.No pics of that no comment in the report !!!!
Mr Howard Kreindel said to me that « our liability is limited to the cost of inspection «
what do you think about this ????

i add a pic of folded châssis
Amitiés
alain frenchie

[Ron Dame]

That is terrible! Were both transactions outside of thee US? Check your contract with this "inspection" firm. Lazy and incompetent, but if the language in the contract says they are only liable for the cost, you may have a problem. add to the fact that you are not in the US, I just don't know, but I'd be speaking to an attorney. You were treated badly by the seller and the inspection company.

[PackardV8]

https://www.autoinspections.net/

Their website brags a bunch:

A diminished value inspection will identify, evaluate or calculate the inherent, and/or insurance related Diminished Value of the vehicle as it is related to collision damage. We perform a detailed inspection of the vehicle, a review of insurance and repair facility estimates to determine if its market value has been diminished as a result of substandard, noticeable previous repairs or deficiencies related to previous body or frame repairs and/or refinishing. If any deficiencies are verified, we provide you with an estimate for the repairs necessary to return your vehicle to its pre-loss condition. Additionally, in some states the laws provide for a diminished value for properly repaired vehicles. That’s right, even if your vehicle is properly repaired to industry standards and returned to the manufacturer’s specification and tolerances, in some cases where severe frame or other types of severe damages were sustained, the value of your vehicle could be diminished substantially due to the disclosure laws.

jack vines

[6hk71400]

If possible, take the car to a frame shop have them check the frame to see if the damage can be repaired, and how it might have happened. To me, it appears that something struck the member while backing up. Until you know what the extent of the damage on the car, this will determine how to proceed against this company.

Si possible, emmenez la voiture dans un magasin de cadres et demandez-leur de vérifier le cadre pour voir si les dommages peuvent être réparés et comment cela a pu se produire.

Good Luck

Bonne chance

Bob Miles

[StudeRich]

It is hard to believe that Body damage and Fender/Hood/Grille miss-Fit would not be obvious with THAT much Frame Damage!
Also hard to believe these "Body and Frame" Experts did not see that!

[AlainBahuaud]

For me to it is hard to believe, but it’s the truth.
you check the oil level, and you see that

[rbisacca]

Hi Stude
few month ago I ordered an pré purchase inspection by nationwide arbitrations & inspections .they send me a report with 90 pics.
when the car arrived at home,at the first look we saw that the chassis front right side member is folded.No pics of that no comment in the report !!!!
Mr Howard Kreindel said to me that « our liability is limited to the cost of inspection «
what do you think about this ????

Didn't this damage show up in one of the 90 pictures?

[AlainBahuaud]

No ,I don’t know what to do
I need your help
i have no answer from the previous owner

[AlainBahuaud]

Pic from report

[junior]

Wow, that totally sucks! I don't know anything about American law, but I'm willing to bet by the time its all said and done you will end up having to bear the cost of fixing the damage and moving forward. The time, heartache, and money involved in making this 'wrong' right through legal venue will be more than the worth of the car. What really sucks is the company you trusted to make an accurate evaluation of the car prior to your purchase failed to do the job correctly, and now that you have discovered fault with the job the company will only give you their fee back. I'm thinking the only way you could have prevented this is to come across the pond and view the car yourself, or have a known personal contact that you trust view the car for you. Chances are neither of these options worked for you so you did your due diligence by hiring a third party and they failed you. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Perhaps spreading the word about the sketchy work that this company did is best you can do and let karma handle the rest. Sorry they failed you. junior

[rbisacca]

There's really nothing you can do since contract states liability limited to refund of inspection cost. When I purchased my '63 Champ I had it inspected by an individual who knew little 'bout Studebakers. My main concern was rust and I do have a totally rust free Champ which I believe is a rarity. However, inspector did miss a badly leaking radiator. I just sucked it up and had radiator re-cored for $428.

How does your car look? How is hood, fender, bumper fit? If they look OK have the wheel alignment checked. If wheels are aligned properly and panel fit is good then I wouldn't worry too much. But if wheels cannot be properly aligned then frame must be straightened.

[AlainBahuaud]

Probably better pic from report

[6hk71400]

For those that are interested, if you go back to the post "Help for Sky Hawk" you can follow Alain's quest for a Sky Hawk. Not sure how he should proceed since there are two countries and a shipper involved. The history was detailed in the post Again, I would go to a frame shop in France to see about fixing and make sure the car is safe to drive. If the car was damaged in transport, surely the shipper has insurance for these purposes.

Bob Miles

[StudeRich]

The way I read this, an "Inspector" Flint Ferguson in Florida?, was dispatched on May 26, to Fly? to Kent, Washington State, and on Mon. June 1, he checked this '56 Sky Hawk in Washington, and filled out the report on June 2, ?

The Owner/actual Seller was Bill McKivor.

It's odd how it says: "we need YOU to test drive the Car Ten Miles, etc, etc. ........"
If Flint is filling out this report, WHO is the "YOU" it is speaking to?
If that is a request from you the New Buyer, and inserted on the Form, that makes sense and those very Detailed Instructions Certainly were NOT done, or done well.

It's THIS Sky Hawk:

https://forum.studebakerdriversclub....hawk-to-france

[Bryan G]

There are two breeds of "inspectors". One can take photos but they really don't know what they're taking photos of. The other knows exactly what to look for. I see no excuse for an inspector of the second type to have missed that. Most of my working life has been as a person who was looking for trouble (with cars, that is!) I've had peers who could stare right at that frame and miss it, and I've had peers who would embarrass me with how much quicker than I that they would notice that.

Were it me, I would make a nuisance of myself by posting negative reviews on Google, Facebook and any other sites that allow people to rate a company. These days this can get better results than a lawsuit!