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    I have 2 WG automatic transmissions that I would appreciate help identifying as to what they would have come out of. They look identical except for bell housings. The tag on the first one says built for Studebaker-Packard corp., and has id # AS10-5P, serial number 86678. On top of the case is 5C-1, and the bell housing has the indent for starter on the drivers side.
    The tag on the second one says built for Studebaker Corp., and has id # AS12-5P, serial number 16057, and 8H-1 on top of case. This one has the starter indent on the pass. side. I would say that both have long tail shafts, as the tail case measures approx.16-3/4",and the shaft sticks out about another inch. Thanks,
    Clifford

  • #2
    You have two Automatic transmissions for V8 cars 61-64. The AS10 is a standard everyday 3 speed Borg transmission with a column shift.
    The AS12 is the same except it has oil cooler lines and is considered a heavy duty transmission. It sounds like someone may have had it on something other than a Studebaker. The starter on the passenger side could be a truck but to my knowledge Studebaker did not offer automatic transmission on 6 cylinder powered trucks. Perhaps it was installed on an American motors bell housing, or a Jaguar, maybe a Ford or one of the several others that this transmission would have fit.

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    • #3
      On the AS-12 Verify the Oil Cooler line fittings right side, front and rear.
      The Chassis Parts Catalog shows the AS12 as being a -7P, are you sure that last part of the number is correct?

      The AS12-7P was used on Both Police Cars and H.D. (Fleet) Cars, Taxis etc. from 1961 to 1964 on V8's.

      The AS10-5P is also a '61 to '64 V8, but the Standard Air Cooled Model as "studepickups" Ted said.

      As you probably know, they will be Bolt-ins on '58 to '64's and usable with driveshaft Mods on '56 to '57's.
      Even '51 to '55's with More Mods and the correct Converter Housing, Converter and 12 Volt Starter etc. etc.
      Last edited by StudeRich; 07-19-2020, 09:52 PM.
      StudeRich
      Second Generation Stude Driver,
      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
      SDC Member Since 1967

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      • #4
        I've changed the topic title. One-word titles are discouraged; please explain what it is you need help with.
        Also, this is not a technical question, so I'll be moving it to the General board next. Cheers!

        Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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        • #5
          On the AS-12 transmission, the last part of the number is definitely 5P . The filler pipe comes out of the trans on the bottom left [driver's side looking at trans from the tail end], crosses over under tail section, then comes up the right side. Both cooler lines come out of right side as well. My intention when I bought these transmissions was to use one of them in my 55 President Coupe. Its original trans. was removed before I got the car and replaced with an older standard with o/d. They had to cut the driveshaft. The set-up works fine, no vibration, but I would like to have it automatic. Sounds like it would need a lot of doctoring to do what I planned. I can post pictures of the transmissions if someone wants a closer look. I am in Canada and have no idea where the vehicles these transmissions came out of were built. Could there be a difference on Canadian built vehicles? My 55 was built in L.A. Thanks

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          • #6
            We already know the Converter Housing is not Studebaker, and this Oil Pan definitely is not either.
            A '61 Lark or '62 Hawk or later would have had the Dipstick Tube on the Rear, curving around to the passenger side.
            So the Case says "Studebaker" but was modified to go in something else.

            Maybe an Aircraft Tug! Hey, it's possible!

            I am sure a lot of us would love to see this Converter Housing, especially the Mounting surface to the Engine, it's a Nancy Drew Mystery!
            StudeRich
            Second Generation Stude Driver,
            Proud '54 Starliner Owner
            SDC Member Since 1967

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              • #8
                Most of you guys know what this transmission is. Think about it; a TV cable instead of a rod, a Studebaker label on the trans, and a bolt pattern on the bell housing that doesn't fit a Studebaker engine but looks familiar somehow............
                D 'N Q RACE ENGINES

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                • #9
                  Easy-peasy. That's a Flightomatic for a 65-66 Stude with a McKinnon engine.
                  Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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                  • #10
                    Also, the actual Studebaker part number 1563836 (65V, 66V) is on the tag! Too bad all FlightOs don't have that.
                    D 'N Q RACE ENGINES

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                    • #11
                      Pictures say a THOUSAND Words!
                      Who would'a Thunk! The CABLE would have been the Big Clue that was not given.
                      StudeRich
                      Second Generation Stude Driver,
                      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                      SDC Member Since 1967

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