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  • R series Bonneville Norris Anderson

    Looks like Norris made it into February 09 Rod and Custom magazine for being out at Bonneville. Nice top speed of 201.992 stated.

    congrats Norris.

    This photo wasn't the one published.

    ChopStu
    61 Lark

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  • #2
    Pretty fast for a brick on wheels.

    JDP/Maryland
    "I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it."
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    • #3
      No kidding! There had to have been a sonic boom 'er somethin'![:0]

      1957 Transtar 1/2ton
      1960 Larkvertible V8
      1958 Provincial wagon
      1953 Commander coupe
      1957 President two door

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      • #4
        That sure is a cool truck. The more I see of the Studies a Bonneville, the more effort I have to make to check it out live. That has to be the fastest R series?

        Gordon

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        • #5
          It takes lots and lots of horespower to push something as un-aerodynamic as a C-cab truck to over 200 mph. He is running in A/Modified Pickup which means an engine of 440 through 500 cubic inches. Norris Anerderson's 201.992 is quite a feat considering the truck he is using. My hat is off to him.

          Joe Roberts
          '61 R1 Champ
          '65 Cruiser
          Editor of "The Down Easterner"
          Eastern North Carolina Chapter
          Joe Roberts
          '61 R1 Champ
          '65 Cruiser
          Eastern North Carolina Chapter

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          • #6
            In addition, whatever is not needed to get the truck from here to there at the fastest speed is taken out of the truck. That probably means the bench seats are gone, heater is gone, instrument panel may have been modified, and fiberglass or carbon fiber panels may be installed in place of the sheetmetal panels. Nothing worse than trying to achieve max speed and having your engine horsepower output being lowered or wasted due to excess mass from extra unnecessary stuff on the vehicle.


            [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left]
            [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
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            1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
            1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
            1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
            1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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            • #7
              quote:In addition, whatever is not needed to get the truck from here to there at the fastest speed is taken out of the truck. That probably means the bench seats are gone, heater is gone, instrument panel may have been modified, and fiberglass or carbon fiber panels may be installed in place of the sheetmetal panels. Nothing worse than trying to achieve max speed and having your engine horsepower output being lowered or wasted due to excess mass from extra unnecessary stuff on the vehicle.
              All true, but keep in mind that time trials are not drag racing.
              Lightness is usually considered a problem in land speed racing, as any extra weight helps hold the vehicle down in a 5 mile runup to the clocks. You might think lead bars are unnecessary, but they are used pretty often to keep the tire patch on the salt.

              Chris Pile
              Midway Chapter SDC
              The Studebaker Special
              The only difference between death and taxes is that death does not grow worse every time Congress convenes. - Will Rogers

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              • #8
                Weight is indeed your friend on the Salt Flats. I believe that the "Avanti Kid" Dave B. had added in more than 700 lbs of lead bricks for improved top end traction. Adding weight to go faster is one of the fun things for a rookie Bonneville racer to learn. In 2006 an Avanti racer (not Dave B.) took out one of the 5 mile timing lights at close to 200 mph....while going backwards/sideways! On his next run he had a lot of weight added, he learned that light weight is not the way for the Salt Flats.

                One other interesting weirdity of racing Bonneville: an open differential is prefered over a locker or posi. This seemed counter intuitive to me, but then it was explained that an open differential offers better high speed stability when soft sections of salt are encountered - better to have only one rear tire spin and the other remain as a stable rudder, rather than having both rear tires spin at high speed and push the rear of the car sideways.

                Thomas

                Long time hot rodder
                Packrat junk collector
                '63 Avanti R2 4 speed

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                • #9
                  One thing we missed, yeah I know, the tractor weights. I remember Ron Hall way back in TW packin ballast into his mufflers. Not only did it add weight it also deadened the noise a little. I know too little weight and a vehicle could quite possibly get into doing a Lindy Hop with the rear end, particularly when air starts rushing in underneath. I come from the angle of having the stock components still in the truck. Surely I know he did not break the 200 mph barrier with the bench seat and Climatizer still present in the cab [)]. That to me reminds me of a few of the guys I used to know who were God's gift to racing, who raced down the freeway with a trunk full of stereo equipment[)]. It confounds the mind to have something onboard that won't give an advantage in performance, or it's installed in all the wrong places. What I was gettin at was the truck was probably stripped of the unneeded items, and it lost unnecessary weight in the process. Of course adding weights where needed shifted the bias and added weight where the traction was needed the most.


                  [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left]
                  [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
                  [IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
                  1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                  1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                  1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                  1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by Thomas63R2

                    Weight is indeed your friend on the Salt Flats. I believe that the "Avanti Kid" Dave B. had added in more than 700 lbs of lead bricks for improved top end traction. Adding weight to go faster is one of the fun things for a rookie Bonneville racer to learn. In 2006 an Avanti racer (not Dave B.) took out one of the 5 mile timing lights at close to 200 mph....while going backwards/sideways! On his next run he had a lot of weight added, he learned that light weight is not the way for the Salt Flats.

                    One other interesting weirdity of racing Bonneville: an open differential is prefered over a locker or posi. This seemed counter intuitive to me, but then it was explained that an open differential offers better high speed stability when soft sections of salt are encountered - better to have only one rear tire spin and the other remain as a stable rudder, rather than having both rear tires spin at high speed and push the rear of the car sideways.

                    Thomas

                    Long time hot rodder
                    Packrat junk collector
                    '63 Avanti R2 4 speed
                    This is especially true when running a pickup. That bed doesn't weigh much so extra weight over the rear wheels is absolutely essential I. I have never seen the Anderson truck in person, but even at Maxton with its concrete surface, fast pickups often have weight added in the bed.

                    Joe Roberts
                    '61 R1 Champ
                    '65 Cruiser
                    Editor of "The Down Easterner"
                    Eastern North Carolina Chapter
                    Joe Roberts
                    '61 R1 Champ
                    '65 Cruiser
                    Eastern North Carolina Chapter

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