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  • Body / Glass: Cowl Supports For Lark Types?

    Is there a supplier available who has Lark type bodies, cowl supports?
    I see them available for CK bodies but not Larks unless I'm looking in the wrong place.
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  • #2
    Perhaps a better description of the supports your looking for. Are they the supports under the car that are attached at the bolted on frame cross-member? Or the supports that are welded to the firewall? Or the supports that are welded to the floor itself (in front of the front seat area)? A picture would also help.
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    • #3
      Classic Enterprises has the cups for Champ pickups that can be modified for Larks for the front floor crossmember. I don't know why they don't list them under the Lark section. I bought two sets years ago, maybe they went up in price.



      You'd have to find a used one for the mount under the hood for the firewall. There should be good ones out west.
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      • #4
        I'll try to clarify which mounts I'm talking about. Like Bordeaux Daytona mentioned, these are viewed from under the hood.
        They bolt to the frame and are welded to the cowl. There's a left side and a right side. I'll see if I can get a photograph tomorrow and post here.
        Thanks all
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        • #5
          I have a set of those I can take from a parts car. Post the pictures to make sure.

          I don't have an explanation why Classic doesn't list those floor brackets for the Lark types since the stamping on the floor of the Champ is virtually the same. It's just cut & trimmed differently to clear the fuel tank & frame but that is in the seat area. Those brackets are found inboard of the "A" pillar.
          59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
          60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
          61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
          62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
          62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
          62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
          63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
          63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
          64 Zip Van
          66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
          66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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          • #6
            I think Bill means the parts that run down to the frame, part of the "dash panel". I don't think anyone has made repro parts, but they shouldn't be too bad to get made at a local sheet metal shop. It's mostly cutting and bending. Since you can't stamp the parts like the originals, some stiffening has to be welded on.

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            • #7
              The champ pickup that I bought still had those in place but they where not being used. They had added a mount under the floor.

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              • #8
                I'm not sure why they did this but my '64s mount is rusting on the passenger side because the cowl hose drains into it. I've thought about drilling a hole in the mount to let it drain and then clean the rust up.

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                • #9
                  Is this what you mean?

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                  • #10
                    Proud NON-CASO

                    I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor...it is a symbol of despair. ~ William McKinley

                    If it is decreed that I should go down, then let me go down linked with the truth - let me die in the advocacy of what is just and right.- Lincoln

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                    Romans 15:13
                    Deuteronomy 31:6
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                    • #11
                      BTW- that's my current Stude project car, '62 Daytona 2dr. HT. You're looking at a lifetime N/E car. All the rust-freedom of a Western car without the fried interior and rubber, or roof rust. Hope to be on the road by Summer.
                      Proud NON-CASO

                      I do not prize the word "cheap." It is not a badge of honor...it is a symbol of despair. ~ William McKinley

                      If it is decreed that I should go down, then let me go down linked with the truth - let me die in the advocacy of what is just and right.- Lincoln

                      GOD BLESS AMERICA

                      Ephesians 6:10-17
                      Romans 15:13
                      Deuteronomy 31:6
                      Proverbs 28:1

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bordeaux Daytona View Post
                        I'm not sure why they did this but my '64s mount is rusting on the passenger side because the cowl hose drains into it. I've thought about drilling a hole in the mount to let it drain and then clean the rust up.
                        You that &/or coat it with POR15 too. I have that bracket on a parts car if your interested.
                        Last edited by Warren Webb; 03-05-2015, 05:12 PM.
                        59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
                        60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
                        61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
                        62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
                        62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
                        62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
                        63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
                        63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
                        64 Zip Van
                        66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
                        66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Warren Webb View Post
                          You that &/or coat it with POR!% too. I have that bracket on a parts car if your interested.
                          I think it'll be ok. I have a parts '64 wagon. One of these days I'll have to get to our '65 and see how bad it is.
                          57pack might need that mount since he brought it up first. Thanks.
                          Last edited by Bordeaux Daytona; 03-04-2015, 06:24 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Warren Webb View Post
                            I have a set of those I can take from a parts car. Post the pictures to make sure.

                            I don't have an explanation why Classic doesn't list those floor brackets for the Lark types since the stamping on the floor of the Champ is virtually the same. It's just cut & trimmed differently to clear the fuel tank & frame but that is in the seat area. Those brackets are found inboard of the "A" pillar.
                            Hi Warren, Gary and Bob are correct, that's the item I was trying to describe. I don't need one, just wondering if and why they weren't reproduced. I've seen several 1963-66 Lark types with cracked or broken supports but always appears on the passenger side.
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                            "There's nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer"
                            Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle
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                            • #15
                              While we're (sort of) on the subject of rust I'd like to add what I've seen on the 59 wagon project I'm working on. What I see as a significant contributor to floor rust is the small weatherstrip on the front doors. This is the one that's glued onto the cover for the upper door hinge. That cover has a drain hole letting water into the inside of the door itself. If that weatherstrip does not seat firmly against the hinge pillar, then water runs by it & goes directly to the inside floor. I found on the wagon the right door weatherstrip had moved & was allowing water directly into the car. The rubber strip around the outer edge wasn't enough to seal it resulting in rust so bad the front seat was removed by just yanking it out! Floor & seat tracks where they formally bolted together was non-existent. I also found while removing the undercoating that there was no paint or anything underneath. So these cars were open game to rust from day one, especially in this front floor area.
                              59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
                              60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
                              61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
                              62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
                              62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
                              62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
                              63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
                              63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
                              64 Zip Van
                              66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
                              66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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