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    Engine: Important changes if a 59 Golden Hawk has a 289, automatic and rear end from a 1964 Cruiser?

    I have my first Hawk on its way to me, a 59 Golden Hawk with a 289, automatic and rear end from a 1964 Cruiser.

    Is there anything that may trip me up by not making it clear to mechanics and such that my running gear is 1964?

    Something along the lines of "I did XXXXX to your car and it blew up! If only you had told me that it was really a 64 and not a 59, we could have saved it!"

    Thanks in advance!


    Phillip
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    Well (maybe) fortunately you will probably never find a Mechanic running or working for a Modern "plug-n-play" Auto Garage that will know what a '59 Stude. engine looks like enough to have any more problems than he already has, having NEVER seen ANY Studebakers!

    The only thing I can think of is that when changing Oil, you look up a '64 Full Flow Oil Filter Wix/NAPA 1049 or equivalent not a '59 partial flow type.

    Maybe ask Don if he installed DOT 5 Silicone Brake Fluid as is often done now to preserve the M/C, wheel Cylinders and basically the whole system.

    Otherwise a "Serviceman" may add DOT 3 or DOT 4 Standard Glycerin/Alcohol Brake Fluid, ruining the whole system.

    I always "TAG" the M/C when using DOT 5, so that "may" not happen.

    Ah, Phil FYI, make that '59 "Silver" Hawk!
    Last edited by StudeRich; 08-22-2013, 02:26 PM.
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner
    SDC Member Since 1967

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    • #3
      Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
      Well (maybe) fortunately you will probably never find a Mechanic running or working for a Modern "plug-n-play" Auto Garage that will know what a '59 Stude. engine looks like enough to have any more problems than he already has, having NEVER seen ANY Studebakers!

      The only thing I can think of is that when changing Oil, you look up a '64 Full Flow Oil Filter Wix/NAPA 1049 or equivalent not a '59 partial flow type.

      Maybe ask Don if he installed DOT 5 Silicone Brake Fluid as is often done now to preserve the M/C, wheel Cylinders and basically the whole system.

      Otherwise a "Serviceman" may add DOT 3 or DOT 4 Standard Glycerin/Alcohol Brake Fluid, ruining the whole system.

      I always "TAG" the M/C when using DOT 5, so that "may" not happen.
      That's exactly the kind of info I am looking for.

      Don did indeed tell me that he used DOT 5 in the brake system and dextron in the transmission. I'll take your excellent advice on labeling the M/C

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      • #4
        Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
        Ah, Phil FYI, make that '59 "Silver" Hawk!
        Yeah, thanks... I know better... But I started calling them Golden Hawks 30 years ago when I didn't know the difference and I have yet to shake the habit!

        Hopefully I'll get it straight in my future posts!
        Last edited by pbrown; 08-22-2013, 02:45 PM.

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        • #5
          You and a bunch-a-folks. My 63 is a Golden Hawk to a bunch. So is my 55 Pres. cheers jimmijim
          Originally posted by pbrown View Post
          Yeah, thanks... I know better... But I started calling them Golden Hawks 30 years ago when I didn't know the difference and I have yet to shake the habit!

          Hopefully I'll get it straight in my future posts!
          You and a whole bunch-a-people
          sigpicAnything worth doing deserves your best shot. Do it right the first time. When you're done you will know it. { I'm just the guy who thinks he knows everything, my buddy is the guy who knows everything.} cheers jimmijim*****SDC***** member

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          • #6
            With the updated drive train and any other updated items, it may qualify for "Platinum Hawk" status.
            Originally posted by pbrown View Post
            Yeah, thanks... I know better... But I started calling them Golden Hawks 30 years ago when I didn't know the difference and I have yet to shake the habit!

            Hopefully I'll get it straight in my future posts!
            sigpic1966 Daytona (The First One)
            1950 Champion Convertible
            1950 Champion 4Dr
            1955 President 2 Dr Hardtop
            1957 Thunderbird

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thunderations View Post
              With the updated drive train and any other updated items, it may qualify for "Platinum Hawk" status.
              I like the thought...And on a similar vein, since it will never be all original, I've been thinking of taking the bits and pieces that appealed to me from different year Hawks (like two tone paint, bucket seats) for my 59. It won't be "right", but it would definitely be "mine!"

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              • #8
                I put bucket seats from a later Hawk or Lark (the guy I bought them from didn't know) in my 58 Hawk
                and 57 Golden Hawk style door panels.


                Joe D.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by valleyguy View Post
                  I put bucket seats from a later Hawk or Lark (the guy I bought them from didn't know) in my 58 Hawk
                  and 57 Golden Hawk style door panels.


                  Joe D.
                  That's very nice. I think my wife would approve of the nice comfy seat bottoms. (that's one of the reasons the 2011 Mustang is on its way out - she finds the seats, and especially the severely canted head rests, uncomfortable)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pbrown View Post
                    Yeah, thanks... I know better... But I started calling them Golden Hawks 30 years ago when I didn't know the difference and I have yet to shake the habit!

                    Hopefully I'll get it straight in my future posts!
                    Well, if its painted gold,...it would be a 'golden' Hawk.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SN-60 View Post
                      Well, if its painted gold,...it would be a 'golden' Hawk.
                      Gold would have been one of my first choices, but of course this one is Tahiti Coral - so I'm thinking of calling her "Cora". My wife says she has never named a car before, but I figure it's about time!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by valleyguy View Post
                        I put bucket seats from a later Hawk or Lark (the guy I bought them from didn't know) in my 58 Hawk and 57 Golden Hawk style door panels.e D.
                        Wow valleyguy, it looks like you are in desperate need of some Studebaker Escutcheons under those Window Cranks or the correct length shaft in the Window Regulator before it ruins that nice upholstery!
                        StudeRich
                        Second Generation Stude Driver,
                        Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                        SDC Member Since 1967

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                        • #13
                          Not really, it does have (or had, its sold) the escutucheons, just hard to see since I put in a little too much
                          stuffing behind those panels. The handles worked fine though.

                          Joe D..

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