Look at lifter !!

[starlightchamp]

I used the help given in a previous thread on "Stuck Valve"
to get the exhaust valve free but the pushrod was sloppy so
had to remove rocker stack and intake manifold. Found the reason
for the slop. Lifter was completley out of its socket. Found years
of sludge in the crevases. I'll need new gaskets. Any suggestions
before I button it up ? Do I neeed to buy a complete gasket set or
can I get just the two I need ?


1950 Champion Starlight
1963 Hawk GT
Santa Barbara
CA

[JDP]

You can buy just the gaskets you need.


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[JDP]

BTW, you need to find out how the hell the hell the lifter came out.


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65 Sports Sedan(sold)
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2/4 speed
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
62 GT(parts car)
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
52 Starliner(sold)
51 Commander

[N8N]

yeah, what JDP said. check and make sure that the pushrod is not bent - roll it on a piece of flat glass. It should roll smoothly. Also make sure that the end of the pushrod isn't damaged from riding on the cam, and likewise that the cam is not damaged from having the pushrod flopping around in there. I'm guessing you will at a minimum need one new pushrod.

good luck,

nate

PS - that engine is nice and clean inside! that small amount of sludge is nothing to worry about, but you might as well clean it out while you're in there. The engine I took out of my '55 before I put in the R1 had about 30x that much sludge in the lifter valley and it ran sweet. Of course if I'd run a few changes with good oil it probably would have cleaned most of it out naturally.

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[Roscomacaw]

From what I know - even if that rod was bent like an archer's bow, that lifter couldn't come out of it's bore. They DO have a tendancy to pull out of thier bores when you extract a pushrod. It would be my GUESS that this is how this lifter got out.
This ISN'T to say a pushrod couldn't ahve been bent enough to where it wasn't doing it's job. But still, when you pull up on that rod, the suction of the oil in the lifter tends to pull the lifter out of it's bore. At least, that's been my experience.
Starlight, you've never said if the valve was TRULY stuck or in reality, just wan't working because there was a problem with it's actuating parts. Which is it?[:I]

Miscreant adrift in
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

[starlightchamp]

Mr. Biggs,

It was really stuck full open. It took nearly a half hour with Blaster and a 10 watt screwdriver
betwen the spring coils to get it loose. I did pull up on the rod several times since it was drifting from the rocker arm. I think you are right on in that how it escaped the socket.
I can compress about 1/4 inch now with the palm of my hand. Both lifter and rod ends
show no visual damage. Cam might have damage from hitting the floating rod but
I didn't run the engine after I found the problem so hope cam is still happy and healthy.

Thanks for the help.
....Dick Curtis


1950 Champion Starlight
1963 Hawk GT
Santa Barbara
CA

[Roscomacaw]

Yup, I think you've summed it up pretty good! If that valve will behave itself henceforth, you might be in the clear. Sure hope so!
When putting that lifter valley cover back on, take care to see that the gasket doesn't fall in someplace around the edge of the cover. I've had that happen to me and it makes a heck of a mess when the oil gets to flowing!

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the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe