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Look at lifter !!

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  • Look at lifter !!

    I used the help given in a previous thread on "Stuck Valve"
    to get the exhaust valve free but the pushrod was sloppy so
    had to remove rocker stack and intake manifold. Found the reason
    for the slop. Lifter was completley out of its socket. Found years
    of sludge in the crevases. I'll need new gaskets. Any suggestions
    before I button it up ? Do I neeed to buy a complete gasket set or
    can I get just the two I need ?


    1950 Champion Starlight
    1963 Hawk GT
    Santa Barbara
    CA
    The 1950 Champion Starlight
    Santa Barbara
    CA

  • #2
    You can buy just the gaskets you need.


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    • #3
      BTW, you need to find out how the hell the hell the lifter came out.


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      Arnold Md.
      65 Sports Sedan(sold)
      64 Daytona HT
      63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
      63 GT Hawk
      63 Avanti R1/AC
      63 Avanti R2/4 speed
      63 Daytona HT
      63 Lark 2 dr.
      62 Lark 2 door
      62 GT(parts car)
      60 Lark convert
      60 Hawk
      52 Starliner(sold)
      51 Commander
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      • #4
        yeah, what JDP said. check and make sure that the pushrod is not bent - roll it on a piece of flat glass. It should roll smoothly. Also make sure that the end of the pushrod isn't damaged from riding on the cam, and likewise that the cam is not damaged from having the pushrod flopping around in there. I'm guessing you will at a minimum need one new pushrod.

        good luck,

        nate

        PS - that engine is nice and clean inside! that small amount of sludge is nothing to worry about, but you might as well clean it out while you're in there. The engine I took out of my '55 before I put in the R1 had about 30x that much sludge in the lifter valley and it ran sweet. Of course if I'd run a few changes with good oil it probably would have cleaned most of it out naturally.

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        • #5
          From what I know - even if that rod was bent like an archer's bow, that lifter couldn't come out of it's bore. They DO have a tendancy to pull out of thier bores when you extract a pushrod. It would be my GUESS that this is how this lifter got out.
          This ISN'T to say a pushrod couldn't ahve been bent enough to where it wasn't doing it's job. But still, when you pull up on that rod, the suction of the oil in the lifter tends to pull the lifter out of it's bore. At least, that's been my experience.
          Starlight, you've never said if the valve was TRULY stuck or in reality, just wan't working because there was a problem with it's actuating parts. Which is it?[:I]

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          • #6
            Mr. Biggs,

            It was really stuck full open. It took nearly a half hour with Blaster and a 10 watt screwdriver
            betwen the spring coils to get it loose. I did pull up on the rod several times since it was drifting from the rocker arm. I think you are right on in that how it escaped the socket.
            I can compress about 1/4 inch now with the palm of my hand. Both lifter and rod ends
            show no visual damage. Cam might have damage from hitting the floating rod but
            I didn't run the engine after I found the problem so hope cam is still happy and healthy.

            Thanks for the help.
            ....Dick Curtis


            1950 Champion Starlight
            1963 Hawk GT
            Santa Barbara
            CA
            The 1950 Champion Starlight
            Santa Barbara
            CA

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            • #7
              Yup, I think you've summed it up pretty good! If that valve will behave itself henceforth, you might be in the clear. Sure hope so!
              When putting that lifter valley cover back on, take care to see that the gasket doesn't fall in someplace around the edge of the cover. I've had that happen to me and it makes a heck of a mess when the oil gets to flowing!

              Miscreant adrift in
              the BerStuda Triangle!!

              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
              1960 Larkvertible V8
              1958 Provincial wagon
              1953 Commander coupe
              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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