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JDP
05-19-2007, 01:23 PM
For those that asked about the factory silver engine color, here's the factory paint on Christine, the 18K Starlight. The pic also shows the quote "all Studebaker's leak oil" to be untrue. Yet another reason I think this car was purchased with the use of a time machine.

http://stude.com/58/oilpan.jpg

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

Randy_G
05-19-2007, 03:43 PM
Thats the shade of silver I have applied to my Larks 259. Thanks for confirming the color for us that have been wondering about there own engines.

Randy_G
1959 Lark Sedan
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/sedan4small.jpg

mbstude
05-19-2007, 05:52 PM
Wow JP.[:p] The car keeps on getting better and better! This is one of those cars that I'd park in the living room. :D


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JDP
05-19-2007, 06:14 PM
I sure glad the PO didn't include any pictures like I've been taking.:) Like Dick's GT, this car just makes you throw money at her and screw the potential profit in so doing.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

Roscomacaw
05-19-2007, 07:07 PM
That picture is HARD TO BELIEVE!!!![:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
05-19-2007, 07:10 PM
This car has made me think about that bullet-nose survivor that was on ebay a year or two ago. Remember that one - I think it had less than 2K miles on it or such. Went for a good price too. Wonder what it's fate has been since it found a new home.[:I]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

StudeDave57
05-20-2007, 01:45 AM
quote:This car has made me think about that bullet-nose survivor that was on ebay a year or two ago...
If it's the car I'm thinking of-
The new owner took it to my brother and Dad (aka Studebakers NorthWest) for a brake job and some other work~ it's now 'living' up in Washington State...


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

lstude
05-20-2007, 09:25 AM
JDP, When I looked at the engine on your car, I thought it was a little too dark from what I remember of the silver engine color on our 58 Silver Hawk. The picture below is one that I took when our Hawk was a couple of years old and I had not changed the silver color. It looks lighter than the silver on yours, but your engine does look very original.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58Hawkengine1961.jpg



http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58CommanderHardtopinMidlothian026.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/52Commanderoutofgarage4-2.jpg

JDP
05-20-2007, 10:21 AM
I see your confusion, look at the oil pan picture, not the engine top. Some one "detailed" the top with a darker rattle can gray.

http://stude.com/58/oilpan.jpg

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

DEEPNHOCK
05-20-2007, 11:07 AM
Is that copper tubing being used on the fuel line, or is it just the picture?
Curious minds....
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by lstude

JDP, When I looked at the engine on your car, I thought it was a little too dark from what I remember of the silver engine color on our 58 Silver Hawk. The picture below is one that I took when our Hawk was a couple of years old and I had not changed the silver color. It looks lighter than the silver on yours, but your engine does look very original.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/58CommanderHardtopinMidlothian026.jpg

JDP
05-20-2007, 11:14 AM
Surface rusted steel, guess I'd better clean and paint it detail gray.:)

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

StudeRich
05-20-2007, 12:55 PM
That good close up pic of the '58 Starlight's oil pan tells me that someone has recently re-sealed the pan, because that is a fresh pan arch gasket without silver overspray. The engines were painted complete and always have painted gaskets.

But yes that IS the correct color, for years some SDC writers have been saying they were silver-gray, when actually ORIGINALLY, (before years of use) they were just ordinary Aluminum Silver! [:0]

That all makes perfect sense, since the whole engine has been cleaned and detailed. The FO would also have re-sealed it at the same time to replace the 49 year old gaskets and seals.

In the process of doing that he (or she) probably cleaned and saved the original silver OR just re-painted it with the correct Silver! [^]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

JDP
05-20-2007, 02:02 PM
The more I look at the car, the more I have to think that it had a pretty nice cosmetic restoration in in the 90's. Your comment about the pan gasket seems logical. I also noticed that lots of parts you could not get to were nicely painted. I'd guess the engine and front clip was removed for painting. Even though I can document the low mileage, there is no way the car could have not weathered more.

JDP/Maryland


63 GT R2
63 Avanti R1
63 Daytona convert
63 Lark 2 door
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark HT-60Hawk
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

58HT
05-21-2007, 11:35 PM
Amazingly clean and nicely detailed engine bay! I agree on the cosmetic resto work on this...the engine fan spacer looks to be the original unpainted metal of a stripped or NOS replaced piece and the fan pulley and crank pulleys are black. All of that would have been silver and the fan would have been silver or black. The oil breather cap is also incorrect. Also true, too, on the overspray on the gaskets for the valve covers as they were on the engine when it was painted and were capped so there was usually silver overspray on the gaskets and cover lips. Still a really nice car and worth the love and adoration of its new owner.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w32/58HT/58-1.jpghttp://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w32/58HT/58-2.jpg