Saganaw 4spd/o.d.

[jrlemke]

I have a 61 Hawk with t-86/o.d. I want to install a G.M. Saganaw 4 spd w/a B.W. o.d. I need some info. What is the length of the Stude. T=10 compaired to the T-86? Is the output end of the Stude T=10 the same as the G.M. T=10 (splines and I.D.)? Also, which 4-spd (wide ratio or close ratio would work out best in my Hawk (I have both)? Thanks for any info. J.R. Lemke

[StudeRich]

Are you going to machine $$$$ [:0] your own custom Input shaft for the GM/Chevy. Saginaw Trans. to fit a Stude. Engine? [:0]

StudeRich

[jrlemke]

No, just use extended pilot bearing. Input is the same as T-10 and Muncie.

[PackardV8]

Well, the front bearing retainer collar the throwout bearing rides on is also a different diameter, so a Chev throwout bearing would have to be adapted or a Stude collar swapped on.

It also should be mentioned, the Chev input shaft is shorter than the Stude. It is not best science to use an adapter plate on a standard bell housing, as an extended pilot bearing is already necessary to reach the shorter Chev input shaft. Thus, the rare '61-early '62 4-speed bell housing would be needed to match the Chev transmission bolt pattern.

Bottom line, the Saginaw requires as much work as a T5 conversion and doesn't shift nearly as well.

thnx, jack vines

PackardV8

[jrlemke]

I'm going to use the Sag. I've been using it for 20 years in my Buick powered 52 Chev with no trouble. I need the length of the Stude T-10 from end of tail shaft to mounting face of trans. and also if I can use Stude slip yoke on G.M. tail. From my experience, I don't think the T-5 shifts any smoother or more positive than the Sag. with a Hurst Comp.Plus.