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    Packard Hawk Project - back in the saddle

    After a little break, moving forward. Sent the body off for blasting and primer so I can get on with the minor rust repair, body work, and a new Shadowtone Red paint job.

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    I look forward to your progress. See it in South Bend in 2022?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milaca View Post
    I look forward to your progress. See it in South Bend in 2022?
    quite possibly. I'm going with the same color scheme as JD's car - we'll have to park them together.
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    I helped a friend restore his Packard Hawk. He did it in the original color, sort of a beige. It won a national first. We didn't like the way it looked in that color and redid the car in Shadowtone Red. It won a national senior first. We both liked the car much better in that darker color. AFAIK, the Hawk is still that color (same paint job, different owner).
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    this car was also jewel beige originally. not crazy about the color. changing to shadow tone red with jewel beige roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgrohs View Post
    this car was also jewel beige originally. not crazy about the color. changing to shadow tone red with jewel beige roof.
    I will plead with you before you get to paint to reconsider your two-tone decision. IMO, the Packard Hawk has way too much going on already without two colors breaking up the lines. The gold Mylar is enough of an accent. If you are thinking about temperature, I doubt that it will make much difference. You can make more of a difference with some hidden modern heat barrier.
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    Nothing wrong with Jewel Beige .
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    Quote Originally Posted by packardHawk58 View Post
    Nothing wrong with Jewel Beige .
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    It wouldn't be, my first choice! But, I'm not sure, exactly what, Shadowtone Red looks like? It isn't this color,
    2153364368_39a51f02af_b.jpg or either of these colors, 38645792_10160637389880057_4113784577359609856_o.jpg is it? I don't think, any of them would look bad? With a Jewel Beige top.

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    when I saw JD's PH in this color scheme at the SB 2017 meet, that was it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgrohs View Post
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    when I saw JD's PH in this color scheme at the SB 2017 meet, that was it for me.
    Although, we can't see how it looks, with the fin mylar, in that shot?

    This one, is very pretty, without a two tone, but would also be with a dark Blue top. 26795341269_6628cb23ca_k.jpg As I also think yours would still look great. If it wasn't two toned, but just painted Shadowtone Red! Yours is the only preference that, should really matter! Figure out what you want, and Go For It!

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    here's a view of the fin and color scheme. I already bought the california-legal paint, so not much chance of going back!
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    I have a original Shadowtone Red car as well but she needs a bit of work !
    I also make the air deflector that seals between the top panel and the hood that was introduced half way into production to help direct air through the radiator than over it .


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    Quote Originally Posted by jgrohs View Post
    After a little break, moving forward. Sent the body off for blasting and primer so I can get on with the minor rust repair, body work, and a new Shadowtone Red paint job.

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    Wow, Jeff; color aside, that sure is a solid-looking tub to start with. Congratulations. BP
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    Jeff, glad to see you can Findley get going on the 58, I know Tom would be very happy to know that his dream car is going forward. he owned that car since the early 60's.
    Knowing you it will be a perfect 58 Packard hawk, like Brian stated original color is very nice when done right, I got to see Brian's car when I was in Australia last month.
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    cleaned up and ready for minor rust repair. the tin-worm was busier than the old painted surface suggested...
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    I've been waiting for a long time to hear you're getting it painted. Keep those pics coming!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jgrohs View Post
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    here's a view of the fin and color scheme. I already bought the california-legal paint, so not much chance of going back!
    Nice side shot, however it was a cloudy day.IMG_0150.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by packardHawk58 View Post
    I have a original Shadowtone Red car as well but she needs a bit of work !
    I also make the air deflector that seals between the top panel and the hood that was introduced half way into production to help direct air through the radiator than over it .


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    Interesting story of my car's maiden voyage. Less than 3 miles on the road and it overheated. I snapped the pic while I was waiting for the tow. Outer armrest weren't even installed yet.


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    ....all it takes is money!.....and lot's of it I'm sure.
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    it's been a productive few weekends. dropped the body on the frame and doing some panel fitting before starting in on the rust repair and body work as the car was in boxes when I got it, and there were signs of a good whack to the passenger side door pillar.

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    It presently looks like a good start to a 1953 Starliner. You sure can tell its roots.
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    Brian, do you have pix of the air deflector you made. and how many extras did you make? thx, Jeff

    Quote Originally Posted by packardHawk58 View Post
    I have a original Shadowtone Red car as well but she needs a bit of work !
    I also make the air deflector that seals between the top panel and the hood that was introduced half way into production to help direct air through the radiator than over it .




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    Jeff, I made a mould off an original, I can make a 100 of them! Ha.
    SI still list the factory brackets which are fitted in this photo.
    I might start making the noses but it may be a wasted effort, not enough call for those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packardHawk58 View Post
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    Jeff, I made a mould off an original, I can make a 100 of them! Ha.
    SI still list the factory brackets which are fitted in this photo.
    I might start making the noses but it may be a wasted effort, not enough call for those.
    Brian, I'll take an air deflector. I've got #326, and it didn't appear to have one - only discovered now that I'm piecing it together.

    how many noses would you have to make to make it worth your time? mine has a lot of repair work - as I'm sure many others do.

    thx, Jeff
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    mock up / coarse fitting going well. it's starting to look a bit more like a PH.
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