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    Hello all, Im new here. I have a 1954 Champ HT (no rust) that I stopped driving in 2005. The half tank of gas is now a crud mess Im sure. I been looking and cannot find any repro gas tanks at all. Im seeing mixed reports about the clean out and rubber liner process not being great. I could make a new alum tank with square corners or cut mine open and bead blast it. Any updates on this subject lately? A lot of the info Im seeing on the web is a few years old. Im located in Miami FL

  • #2
    I'm taking mine to my local engine rebuild shop and they are going to hot tank and flush it in their caustic soda hot tank. Said maybe $30-40.

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    • #3
      All I have ever done with mine is siphon out the old gas and put in some fresh gas. I have never attempted to boil out a gas tank and never had one leak. Every person I have seen boil out a gas tank has to repair them next.

      Have I been lucky? Maybe all this boiling and repairing was not necessary before people started fiddling with their tanks and making things worse.
      Last edited by RadioRoy; 02-22-2016, 12:20 PM.
      RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

      17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
      10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
      10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
      4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
      5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
      56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
      60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible

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      • #4
        Unless it indicates it's going to be a leaker, just flush out the old fuel, replace the fuel filter and add clean fuel.
        "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

        Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
        Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
        '33 Rockne 10,
        '51 Commander Starlight,
        '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée",
        '56 Sky Hawk

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        • #5
          I agree with RadioRoy and rockne10. Someone lined the tank on my 1950 Champion that I bought 2 years ago. The liner is falling off and plugging the fuel system. I have put some hardware in the tank to strip the rest of the liner off by spinning it on a cement mixer. After a couple hours of tumbling at 45* angle, I have the bottom clean, now I need to do the top. The neighbor woman came over and yelled at me for making so much noise, so I'm waiting for her to leave.

          Back in the late 70's I bought a 1952 Champion that was in a cow pasture. It runs great on a remote tank, but the original fuel line is so blocked from old gas that even a grease gun can't unblock it, and they put out over 2000 lbs. of pressure.

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          • #6
            Unless its gotten water in it, or was bad before the 10 yr rest, its probably OK except for the varnish. You may try dropping the tank and a flush out with acetone and see what you have before getting into a different tank. Someone here posted a while ago about refitting a '55 ? chevy reproduction tank in their C/K I think.

            Jeff in ND

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            • #7
              RadioRoy Are you saying that having the tank hot tanked will cause it to leak? The tank that I have is from CA. and is empty but have no idea how long it's set with out being used but my guess is 10-15 yrs at least.

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              • #8
                Once you remove the Sending Unit you will be able to tell if a good rinsing will do the trick, a shinny galvanized bottom is a GOOD thing.
                StudeRich
                Second Generation Stude Driver,
                Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by swvalcon View Post
                  RadioRoy Are you saying that having the tank hot tanked will cause it to leak? The tank that I have is from CA. and is empty but have no idea how long it's set with out being used but my guess is 10-15 yrs at least.
                  My opinion is that if it isn't broken, don't mess with it. Don't assume that it is bad just because it has been sitting. Many people make trouble for themselves because they think that they must do something just because everybody else is doing it.

                  Yes, it is quite possible that a working tank can be made to leak by messing with it, tweaking it, bouncing/vibrating/bashing/dropping it and subjecting it to various chemicals.
                  Last edited by RadioRoy; 02-23-2016, 02:31 PM.
                  RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

                  17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
                  10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
                  10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
                  4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
                  5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
                  56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
                  60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible

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                  • #10
                    I like the idea of taking the sender out and looking inside. If it's cruddy/rusty then off to be boiled. If it is not so bad you can usually get them clean enough to not cause problems. I have cleaned a lot of tanks thru the years. It is not the big chunks of crud that usually cause problems. It is the fine as dust rust particles that clog screens, settle out in the bottom of carb jets, etc. that have caused the most problems for me.
                    1962 Champ

                    51 Commander 4 door

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TWChamp View Post
                      I agree with RadioRoy and rockne10. Someone lined the tank on my 1950 Champion that I bought 2 years ago. The liner is falling off and plugging the fuel system. I have put some hardware in the tank to strip the rest of the liner off by spinning it on a cement mixer. After a couple hours of tumbling at 45* angle, I have the bottom clean, now I need to do the top. The neighbor woman came over and yelled at me for making so much noise, so I'm waiting for her to leave.

                      Back in the late 70's I bought a 1952 Champion that was in a cow pasture. It runs great on a remote tank, but the original fuel line is so blocked from old gas that even a grease gun can't unblock it, and they put out over 2000 lbs. of pressure.
                      Aren't you glad you couldn't hear her?
                      Ron Dame
                      '63 Champ

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                      • #12
                        Once you get the sender out, stick a little inspection mirror in and take a look at the top.
                        South Lompoc Studebaker

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                        • #13
                          I just shipped a gas tank from Sacramento to Arkansas via Greyhound. Shipping was $50. I have another tank up in the rafters. If you're interested, PM me and we can talk. By the way, I see you're new here, so PM means private message. Click on my name and you'll be able to send me a message.
                          sals54

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                          • #14
                            Got the tank renewed by a radiator shop in Tampa, FL across my state here. Talked with the owner and saw his site and they are known for the tank jobs so I chose them and his decent cost at $180. The work looks good but we will know in a year or 2 how it holds up. I did have a lot of rust in there and the 11 yr old gasoline too. Dont have the name of the place handy but if anyone needs it let me know.

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                            • #15
                              Tanks also collect Sif, Fonk, Gradoo, on top which holds moisture and causes rust/ leaks.tank on G,sons 63 Lark was really dab inside but rusted through from outside top and rear corners.tank usually mostly empty so condensation forms on tank top underside.cleaned with Krud Kutter For Rust, and Red Coated. have had good luck over the years with this product. preparation is key here. Good luck with what ever you do , Doofus

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