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    I own a 1951 Studebaker champion in original condition. I am restoring the vehicle as I have owned it for several years and this is the next project up. I have never asked what the correct manufacturer and white wall width is for my car. Does anyone know the correct answer? I know the tire size is 670-15. I like to restore my cars correctly and knew I could find the correct answer here. I am joining both the national club and my local club as well. Thanks for any help.

  • #2
    I don't believe they used one brand exclusively but primarily Firestone. It may have also depended on which plant did assembly. I think the WW width was 2 7/8". Perhaps one of our SDC judges has more precise information.
    At any rate, I don't think points would be deducted in competition as long as all five tires matched.
    Brad Johnson,
    SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
    '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
    '56 Sky Hawk in process

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    • #3
      Coker Tire sells what you are looking for.
      http://store.coker.com/product.php?p...4&cat=0&page=1
      (copy)
      Details

      670-15 FIRESTONE BLACKWALL TIRE
      SKU 568800
      Construction: 4 ply polyester
      Load Capacity: 1450 @ 32 psi
      Tube Type: Tubeless
      Overall Diameter: 28.58
      Cross Section: 7.01
      Tread Width: 4.50
      Tread Depth: 12
      Max Inflation: 32
      Rec. Rim Width: 5-6
      Price: $114.00
      (pic shows whitewall, but SKU is for blackwall)


      Hope the info helps.
      Jeff[8D]






      quote:Originally posted by 51champion

      I own a 1951 Studebaker champion in original condition. I am restoring the vehicle as I have owned it for several years and this is the next project up. I have never asked what the correct manufacturer and white wall width is for my car. Does anyone know the correct answer? I know the tire size is 670-15. I like to restore my cars correctly and knew I could find the correct answer here. I am joining both the national club and my local club as well. Thanks for any help.



      Deep-N-Hock Acres
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      '37 Coupe Express
      '37 Coupe Express Trailer (project)
      '61 Hawk (project: Ist Gen Owner - project)
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      HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

      Jeff


      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



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      • #4
        they have the white walls too, but I think they were 3 inches or better wide.

        JDP/Maryland
        64 R2 GT cost to date
        $58,185.77
        64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
        63 Lark 2 door
        58 Packard HT
        56 Golden Hawk
        52 Starliner
        51 Commander
        39 Coupe express
        39 Coupe express (rod)

        JDP Maryland

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        • #5
          Commanders are 6.70 X 15 or 7.10X15, but I believe Champions are 6.40 X 15 They were usually Firestone, in 1950 probably all were! There was a plant on Firestone Blvd. South Gate, CA close to the Los Angeles (Vernon) Plant.

          quote:Originally posted by 51champion

          I own a 1951 Studebaker champion Does anyone know the correct answer? I know the tire size is 670-15.
          StudeRich
          Studebakers Northwest
          Ferndale, WA
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
          SDC Member Since 1967

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          • #6
            For the record Firestone (now Bridgestone-Firestone) does not make the "Firestone" labeled tire sold by Coker Tire. They are sold under a licensing agreement. Michelin, BFG, and others do the same type of thing. If you want an authentic tire for your car - these types of repops are your only choice. Firestone hasn't made anything like that in years...

            55 Commander
            58 Transtar
            62 GT Hawk
            66 Cruiser

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            • #7
              Another place you can try, if you live near there, is www.universaltire.com Their located in Hershey, Pa..

              Stopped by there to get a quote on 800-14 tires for my Hawk..It has the original spare and its a Firestone..

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              • #8
                For 1951, your car probably came with Firestone tires if it was assembled in the US. Later years used a large assortment of tire manufacturers.
                Get the build sheet for your car from the SNM. It should have tire, and a lot more, information on it for your particular car.

                Gary L.
                Wappinger, NY

                SDC member since 1968
                Studebaker enthusiast much longer
                Gary L.
                Wappinger, NY

                SDC member since 1968
                Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                • #9
                  I want to thank everyone who pointed me in the right direction. I am going to buy 5 new 670-15's with the 3 5/8 white walls. I know the 640's are correct but the difference is only 3/4 ". I have 670's on it now and it seems fine. I like the look of the wider whites. I live in St petersburg Florida and enjoy driving it but it does need some more work.

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                  • #10
                    Gary; did you ever see a Studebaker with anything other than the Studebaker preferred Firestones or the few '63, '64's that had U.S.Royal tires?

                    The only one I ever saw would be the Wagons & Wagonaires with 3rd. seat, that had Goodyear Captive Air, simply because it was the only Mfg. that could provide inner "spare" tires!

                    I remember back in '56 the dealer Dad worked at was installing a few English Vogue "Tyres" like they used on Caddies, on Golden Hawks, we had a set on our Power Hawk that someone did not want to "pay for" on their GH, so Dad had them swapped for our Firestones.

                    quote:Originally posted by studegary

                    For 1951, your car probably came with Firestone tires if it was assembled in the US. Later years used a large assortment of tire manufacturers.
                    StudeRich
                    Studebakers Northwest
                    Ferndale, WA
                    StudeRich
                    Second Generation Stude Driver,
                    Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                    SDC Member Since 1967

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                    • #11
                      My '60 Lark had the captive air tires and spare tire and jack delete.
                      [4dr sdn]
                      LaSalle,Il
                      61Hawk
                      Oglesby,Il.

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                      • #12
                        If you're going to use the original wheels, make sure you clean and check them very closely for any cracks. Also, because the original wheels did not have the "bead-lock" feature, it is imperative that you use tubes, even though the tires are tubeless. Many owners are opting for later model wheels, new or used, to eliminate these issues. There have been many earlier threads regarding replacement wheels. You can check the "search" feature above to view these. Hope this helps.

                        Dan Miller
                        Atlanta, GA

                        [img=left]http://static.flickr.com/57/228744729_7aff5f0118_m.jpg[/img=left]
                        Road Racers turn left AND right.

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                        • #13
                          quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

                          Gary; did you ever see a Studebaker with anything other than the Studebaker preferred Firestones or the few '63, '64's that had U.S.Royal tires?

                          The only one I ever saw would be the Wagons & Wagonaires with 3rd. seat, that had Goodyear Captive Air, simply because it was the only Mfg. that could provide inner "spare" tires!


                          StudeRich
                          Studebakers Northwest
                          Ferndale, WA
                          One example that comes to mind is that my 1964 Avanti came with Sears Allstate tires, as many Avantis did.

                          Gary L.
                          Wappinger, NY

                          SDC member since 1968
                          Studebaker enthusiast much longer
                          Gary L.
                          Wappinger, NY

                          SDC member since 1968
                          Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                          • #14
                            That was just a temporary "marketing arrangement" and "give away" contest advertising gimmick. on a limited number of '64 Avantis only.
                            It was done partly because Allstate Tire was a sponsor of the 1964 Studebaker Bonneville Speed Record Runs.

                            So that makes total of (4) in 114 years (not that we talking about the pre-war years anyway), and three "other than" Firestone all together, make up less than 5% of the tires used!

                            So I don't think you could say, "there were a large assortment" of tire manufacturers used by Studebaker.

                            StudeRich
                            Studebakers Northwest
                            Ferndale, WA
                            StudeRich
                            Second Generation Stude Driver,
                            Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                            SDC Member Since 1967

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